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blackspade

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21. Keystone XL is a scam.

Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:40 PM

Nov 2014

It dosen't produce jobs, will cause major environmental damage, and will do nothing for America's longterm energy security.
What it will do is line the pockets of rich oil men with even more money.

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Why I think "the Pipeline" thing is a BAD idea: [View all] IdaBriggs Nov 2014 OP

All plumbing requires maintenance. MineralMan Nov 2014 #1

It's true there are pipelines all over the place A Little Weird Nov 2014 #16

I'm reminded of the "wonderful, responsible" job BP did (laugh here) Stargazer99 Nov 2014 #35

Here's a handy map of natural gas pipelines MineralMan Nov 2014 #2

We see it all the time, when I lived on LI eg, it was a huge topic, the need to get rid of all sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #10

OK. You let me know when it's time to MineralMan Nov 2014 #13

Since most of the oil will be exported, this has nothing to do with the car we drive. tecelote Nov 2014 #26

We are making a serious switch to alternatives. Our house, which we bought two years ago, is sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #56

Yes, there are pipelines - but these were NOT built for tar sands. rosesaylavee Nov 2014 #11

Holy Jesus! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #50

If you are kidding, let me know - Enbridge Oil Spill in the Kalamazoo River rosesaylavee Nov 2014 #14

I think there are two big issues when it comes to not wanting the XL pipeline... Spazito Nov 2014 #17

The biggest problem with the XL pipeline is the stuff that will be shoved through it. PDJane Nov 2014 #19

"...the water table." CrispyQ Nov 2014 #38

I think MM is unwilling or unable to understand the big picture. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #51

One blew up in Royal Oak last year / took out three houses. IdaBriggs Nov 2014 #27

I wish the focus was on solar. logosoco Nov 2014 #3

At the link below, you'll find a map of oil pipelines MineralMan Nov 2014 #4

And that's only for 6" and 8" lines. kentauros Nov 2014 #7

I've done that for my area, which is riddled with natural gas MineralMan Nov 2014 #9

I briefly worked for Reliant Energy here in Houston kentauros Nov 2014 #12

I worked for a gas company in Southern California MineralMan Nov 2014 #20

While I have done my share of hand-drafting, kentauros Nov 2014 #23

Are any of them carrying tar sands crude? livingonearth Nov 2014 #22

Exactly! You get it! rosesaylavee Nov 2014 #25

Look at post 54 B Calm Nov 2014 #55

And finally, here's a map of oil and gas pipelines MineralMan Nov 2014 #5

No problems with plumbing. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #6

You really need to take a break from that paper, KMOD Nov 2014 #8

Truth - it was honestly why I was thinking of it! IdaBriggs Nov 2014 #33

Agreed. And I find it pretty distressing to see long time DUers pushing the rosesaylavee Nov 2014 #15

+1 BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #18

I do not know... my guess is tho rosesaylavee Nov 2014 #24

You are kinder than I BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #39

It's the only way for me to keep rosesaylavee Nov 2014 #44

I strongly urge you to do it BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #45

I will. rosesaylavee Nov 2014 #46

I meant to say the environmental angle BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #59

Yes! Please do. Many here are buying into right wing BS. RiverLover Nov 2014 #48

IOIOSI vi5 Nov 2014 #29

But he doesn't support it, and will most likely veto it if it approved by the Senate. rosesaylavee Nov 2014 #30

We'll see. vi5 Nov 2014 #62

Yeah, that's the strangest part BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #40

Keystone XL is a scam. blackspade Nov 2014 #21

Sewer pipes don't make millionaire campaign donors. vi5 Nov 2014 #28

Sounding VERY RW, you are. Read and learn about our current state of aging gas pipelines RiverLover Nov 2014 #49

While the risk of bad spill is real, China and India will get that oil - and they don't give whereisjustice Nov 2014 #31

And we need to help them reach that aim at our own risk why? TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #63

We shouldn't, but there is a gross misconception that this pipeline is for US, it isn't whereisjustice Nov 2014 #64

Serfs up seveneyes Nov 2014 #32

I can't tell if this is parody. mathematic Nov 2014 #34

Sigh. Not parody. IdaBriggs Nov 2014 #36

Here's a story(1 of many)-"Oil spill at nature preserve 'absolutely terrible'" RiverLover Nov 2014 #37

+1 BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #41

It is worse than that. GeoSquared Nov 2014 #42

That's crazy. Thanks for info. ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #43

The energy ratio figures are pretty important. I've never seen them before but once I understand... marble falls Nov 2014 #61

One of the proposed routes goes just west of Fargo. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #47

Hello...Ogallala Aquifer 2naSalit Nov 2014 #52

Thanks for putting it in common sense terms. Kath1 Nov 2014 #53

2010 a Canadian Tar Sand Oil Pipeline leaked thousands of gallons of thick oil into the Kalamazoo B Calm Nov 2014 #54

One more time, with feeling. There is no way to clean this crap up. PDJane Nov 2014 #58

America takes all the risk Nevernose Nov 2014 #57

Keystone Pipeline is America's Roman lead water pipes. kickysnana Nov 2014 #60