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moriah

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29. Banning all firearms or limiting magazines to 7 is pretty "far-left".
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:05 PM
Nov 2014

If Democrats mellowed out even a touch about guns, it would make a difference in Southern states and get more Democratic votes. Many here are disappointed by the Republicans, but vote for them because they perceive Democrats as coming to take their guns away. Even 10-round limitations eliminate several popular handguns that have double-stack magazines and are easier to handle because of that design.

But even the "gun nuts" I argue with agree that fully automatic weapons, especially belt-fed instead of magazines, should not be sold to the public. Trying to come down on modern hunting rifles is just not the way to go, as many of them that were called "assault weapons" are only called that because of modifications that can be used to hunt game. Talk reasonable restrictions, like youths not being allowed to have access to them, or charging the gun owner if their child uses their gun in a shooting, and many will agree that is the way to go. We nee to get the private-party exemption fixed for background checks, and make all guns have to go through proper channels to get transferred. Even hardened gun nuts agree with me there when I quote gun training experts who say that guns must be kept away from "criminals, children, and the clueless", that such restrictions are reasonable.

"Single payer or nothing" is also a "far-left" POV. We should be trying to get progress made to make the ACA work better, like expanding Marketplace coverage and subsidies to families who are being charged more than 9% of their family income for family coverage, rather than saying "Well, the ACA is toast so let's say single-payer or fuck this shit!"

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Bwahahaha! Those policies are so old-fashioned Left Wing glitter-shitting ponies! djean111 Nov 2014 #1
Its not that we don't support them....DUH! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #2
But these are ideas that most Americans support Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #3
it fucking doesn't matter....WE know how they vote. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #5
Progressive policies have overwhelming support. Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #7
"Progressive Policies" will not be a name on a Ballot. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #8
sure. By "the People." Who the hell cares one tiny sh*t about them? librechik Nov 2014 #49
i am not owned....I am Democrat by choice.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #53
The problem is that while voters keep polling that way, and keep voting for ballot measures, mythology Nov 2014 #13
Probably didn't help Pryor was against the minimum wage increase. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #35
so you don't really "support them". Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #6
uh What? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #9
Well said! nt Mojorabbit Nov 2014 #51
I support all those things. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #4
Can you say the "far left" supports those things baldguy Nov 2014 #10
And yet the West Coast elected Democrats while reforming drug laws, expanding rights and Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #14
Please note the difference between those who only *claim* to be liberals, & those who actually are. baldguy Nov 2014 #17
The "far left" LWolf Nov 2014 #30
The problem is you're falsely conflating the nearly mythical "neo-liberal" with political realists. baldguy Nov 2014 #31
No, I'm not. LWolf Nov 2014 #32
And it's to the advantage of Republicans to sap support from Democrats. Which is what you're doing. baldguy Nov 2014 #34
No I'm not. LWolf Nov 2014 #37
Better for who? They're not better candidates if they lose, are they? baldguy Nov 2014 #39
They aren't better candidates if LWolf Nov 2014 #45
Right. You're one who thinks a Republican President is better than a Hillary President. baldguy Nov 2014 #46
False. Again. LWolf Nov 2014 #47
Donald Sagretti would be proud of you. baldguy Nov 2014 #50
I don't know who Donald Sagretti is, LWolf Nov 2014 #52
Deliberately conflating treestar Nov 2014 #11
In what way? I see no methods mentioned in the OP. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #16
People disagree over how to obtain the goals treestar Nov 2014 #38
You know, I've waited for someone to ask this question wyldwolf Nov 2014 #12
And thus you shit upon the Democratic segments that have given the Party all the recent victory Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #15
How so? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #19
+ 100 JoePhilly Nov 2014 #23
Yes and it's bull they are being "shit on" treestar Nov 2014 #41
I truly resent the divide that has formed. moriah Nov 2014 #27
Well in your rush to sound like a condescending jerk you missed the point Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #18
I didn't miss the point in your intentionally clueless OP wyldwolf Nov 2014 #21
Banning all firearms or limiting magazines to 7 is pretty "far-left". moriah Nov 2014 #29
I don't disagree with you on either point Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #40
You're missing the point... brooklynite Nov 2014 #20
But everyone doesn't get their patch on the quilt immediately that way. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #22
It is tough to understand it treestar Nov 2014 #42
They support not voting if their candidate isn't perfect LadyHawkAZ Nov 2014 #24
"realist" is like "Biblical literalist": they lose elections way more than progs, even in Arkansas MisterP Nov 2014 #25
uh nope VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #26
Let's do a head count. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #28
+1 LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #36
Exactly. Pick a deep red district where treestar Nov 2014 #43
Mingling with irrational realists seveneyes Nov 2014 #33
That I support, or that I think the Democrats should run on? Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #44
I support all of them. But I don't blame a candidate for not getting them passed bhikkhu Nov 2014 #48
The people who did not vote this year Hari Seldon Nov 2014 #54
3 iAddie's gwheezie Nov 2014 #55
3 issues gwheezie Nov 2014 #56
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