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scarystuffyo

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23. I don't disagree with a lot of what you wrote

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 06:57 PM

Nov 2014

just by the President saying he will use executive action has gotten congress to talk about it
but the President has to give congress a chance to debate in how to fix the immigration issue.
It is a front burner issue that is not going away now , no way now is this going on the back burner.

The President needs to wait and let Democrats and Republicans work out a bill
then present it to the President .

that's all I'm saying

If he goes this alone and something goes wrong down the road because of it.

Democrats are toast in 2016

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Why are there members here supporting having Obama using executive action [View all] scarystuffyo Nov 2014 OP

It depends on which immigration you're talking about. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #1

What are the numbers in those? 60 , 70 thousand a year ? bio tech , chemistry , engineering etc.. scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #7

Disaster? elleng Nov 2014 #2

We don't even know what the Exec. Order will say. It could be a really great thing. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #123

Exactly. elleng Nov 2014 #126

How? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #3

Because in 2016 someone is going to have to run on this scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #12

Ok, here's where I disagree with your prediction. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #17

I don't disagree with a lot of what you wrote scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #23

With all due respect congress has had years to debate onecaliberal Nov 2014 #32

The president invited Congress to pass an immigration law. Chemisse Nov 2014 #65

Most of the people who will be involved in the actions are already here and have been for many jwirr Nov 2014 #103

These sounld like repug talking points. brush Nov 2014 #104

The argument is that conservative opposition to reform is a lot more intense than liberal support Recursion Nov 2014 #100

Please expand on your post Vincardog Nov 2014 #4

why is that? Reagan took executive action on immigration. nashville_brook Nov 2014 #5

Yup. And there was no Republican rebellion.... ollie4 Nov 2014 #68

fuck the republicons. spanone Nov 2014 #6

No it won't. It will be a disaster for republicans though. n/t Lil Missy Nov 2014 #8

No it won't scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #15

congess won't act. it's that simple. spanone Nov 2014 #20

They will now , they have no choice scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #24

you give them waaaay to much credit. spanone Nov 2014 #48

They have not in the past.... ollie4 Nov 2014 #72

How long do you propose the President should wait? He's been waiting 6 years now. shraby Nov 2014 #38

That's a republican talking point. Lil Missy Nov 2014 #63

Where do you live that it is such a big deal? jwirr Nov 2014 #106

There are some who want that to be the case... Spazito Nov 2014 #9

Polls show that people support a path to citizenship, even republicans. What 'disaster' are pampango Nov 2014 #10

Reference those polls please. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #13

Conservative republicans are the least supportive of legal status (54%). pampango Nov 2014 #21

Look what happened Ink Man Nov 2014 #34

Thanks. That hardly cancels out the desire of most Americans to see a path to legal status for them pampango Nov 2014 #47

Yes, but the Pew study was from June of 2013. amandabeech Nov 2014 #78

I guess we don't agree on how ready the country is for immigration reform. For sure, pampango Nov 2014 #81

A year ago I would have agreed with you, but with the comments I've heard over the past few amandabeech Nov 2014 #83

You are using poll numbers from Jun 2013. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #70

Here's one from 2 months ago - September. pampango Nov 2014 #87

Your own numbers don't support your argument Savannahmann Nov 2014 #90

My numbers are for people who support a path to legalization. Some support as the main priority, pampango Nov 2014 #97

Fancy that, a person who hates the ACA also whining about geek tragedy Nov 2014 #95

Baloney Savannahmann Nov 2014 #113

Asdf geek tragedy Nov 2014 #114

Baloney Again Savannahmann Nov 2014 #115

Besides your claim that the ACA was a voucher program in disguise, there's geek tragedy Nov 2014 #116

You've done much to prove nothing. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #118

Just so people don't get the wrong idea, your PM was full of virulently hateful geek tragedy Nov 2014 #120

From wiki: "A tell in poker is a change in a player's behavior or demeanor that is claimed by some FSogol Nov 2014 #11

Been waiting... likesmountains 52 Nov 2014 #101

Seems to me that 2naSalit Nov 2014 #14

Disaster? It'd be great...always a good idea to pick a fight with Repukes... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #16

The President can work out a bill with Congress scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #18

Have you been paying attention the last 6 years? joeybee12 Nov 2014 #19

Yeah, that was a bit Twilight Zone-ish. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #26

600+ posts and he/she is still bored... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #40

Since October. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #46

Let's do a DU pool to see if he makes it to December... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #49

I'd say yes, based on the fact that... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #52

This current foot stomping thread on GOP impotence is especially funny alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #59

They will on this because they have to scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #31

Who has to? Why do they have to? WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #44

Why do they *have to* pass a bill? Why should they? Their voters don't want one. So they won't. freshwest Nov 2014 #122

Which Congress? JaneyVee Nov 2014 #22

LOL tammywammy Nov 2014 #28

Many of us would have preferred that, but their tea party wing has repubs too scared pampango Nov 2014 #29

Good luck selling that here AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #25

No we wouldn't Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #61

I agree. amandabeech Nov 2014 #79

Thank you for your concern...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #27

that is exactly what I was gonna write Kali Nov 2014 #57

Hispanics & Lantinos are 12.5% of the population **and growing** baldguy Nov 2014 #30

I don't want the President to ignore it , the majority of the country wants to scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #35

So, how is it a "disaster" if the President does what the majority of the country wants? baldguy Nov 2014 #39

Because a vast majority oppose taking Executive action on the issue Savannahmann Nov 2014 #76

The Rethugs in Congress should lead, follow, or get out of the way on immigration. Since they Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #33

There are other elections than the next one, we'd best secure the block if we wish to win them. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #36

Best response in the thread, imho. Along those lines, U.S. Grant fought a very early KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #107

Yo BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #37

Bring back the unrec option. Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #41

I agree. jwirr Nov 2014 #111

When Republicans speak of immigration reform, they mean something punitive. I like Obama's plan. Hoyt Nov 2014 #42

concern troll is concerned, nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #43

Legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair! H2O Man Nov 2014 #45

Oh, just stuff it. HERVEPA Nov 2014 #50

"Saint Ronnie" did it, so why is it a disaster for dems, again..? peacebird Nov 2014 #51

if it would be a disaster for the Dems Enrique Nov 2014 #53

Let the chips fall where they may, it's the right thing to do. MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #54

lol - pissed about that TBF Nov 2014 #55

See below... 2naSalit Nov 2014 #56

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #58

forgive me if I put party first scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #64

Which party? pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #66

Ha! alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #71

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #60

Tell congress to get off their ass! B Calm Nov 2014 #62

Stop watching FOX nt abelenkpe Nov 2014 #67

What? You think if Democrats don't do things Gman Nov 2014 #69

It will be good for the country frazzled Nov 2014 #73

Serves 2 purposes. BKH70041 Nov 2014 #74

The problem is that more non-Hispanic voters are seeing the "cheap labor" end of it. amandabeech Nov 2014 #82

Where else do they have to go? BKH70041 Nov 2014 #112

They'll stay home or vote pub. amandabeech Nov 2014 #128

On what do you base your prediction of disaster? MineralMan Nov 2014 #75

Why? jazzimov Nov 2014 #77

Because it is the right thing to do. (And it won't be a disaster.) Vattel Nov 2014 #80

Democrats will be MFM008 Nov 2014 #84

Like Ebola? GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #85

Thank you for posting this customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #86

I'll be the first to support this and recognize the political danger JonLP24 Nov 2014 #121

Better question.. why are there a couple of members who aren't? Cha Nov 2014 #88

... YvonneCa Nov 2014 #91

They're scared! Cha Nov 2014 #98

Back at you... YvonneCa Nov 2014 #109

Because we don't want to lose the White House in 2016. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #92

So you favor deporting DREAMers then. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #96

It's hilarious watching the alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #93

EO on Immigration.. Cha Nov 2014 #99

I support it If House does not act on the Senate comprehensive bill. riversedge Nov 2014 #89

Where does this idea come from Yupster Nov 2014 #117

The White House dials up the number of H1B visas each year via executive action. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #94

Maybe no hair on fire, but hair does get singed regularly on the H1B topic. amandabeech Nov 2014 #129

Why would it be a disaster? brush Nov 2014 #102

Your conversation is purely Republic0n speak. Stellar Nov 2014 #105

Because it's the right thing to do and Republicans are incapable of governing. - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #108

It's standing up on principle...and the disaster would be cry baby Nov 2014 #110

Evaluating whether something should or should not be done JonLP24 Nov 2014 #119

It's already a disaster for 12 million people Old Nick Nov 2014 #124

Because it is the right fucking thing to do for the people affected. JEB Nov 2014 #125

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