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shraby

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38. How long do you propose the President should wait? He's been waiting 6 years now.

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 07:13 PM

Nov 2014

And before that, the republicans had a chance to do something for 8 years and what did we hear? Crickets at the same time they were going crazy about people coming over the border. The best they could come up with was what Russia did after WWII. Build a wall.
That worked so good to keep people out, it kept their citizens in as well.
If signing an EO will get them off their duffs, the more power to him.

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Why are there members here supporting having Obama using executive action [View all] scarystuffyo Nov 2014 OP

It depends on which immigration you're talking about. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #1

What are the numbers in those? 60 , 70 thousand a year ? bio tech , chemistry , engineering etc.. scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #7

Disaster? elleng Nov 2014 #2

We don't even know what the Exec. Order will say. It could be a really great thing. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #123

Exactly. elleng Nov 2014 #126

How? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #3

Because in 2016 someone is going to have to run on this scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #12

Ok, here's where I disagree with your prediction. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #17

I don't disagree with a lot of what you wrote scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #23

With all due respect congress has had years to debate onecaliberal Nov 2014 #32

The president invited Congress to pass an immigration law. Chemisse Nov 2014 #65

Most of the people who will be involved in the actions are already here and have been for many jwirr Nov 2014 #103

These sounld like repug talking points. brush Nov 2014 #104

The argument is that conservative opposition to reform is a lot more intense than liberal support Recursion Nov 2014 #100

Please expand on your post Vincardog Nov 2014 #4

why is that? Reagan took executive action on immigration. nashville_brook Nov 2014 #5

Yup. And there was no Republican rebellion.... ollie4 Nov 2014 #68

fuck the republicons. spanone Nov 2014 #6

No it won't. It will be a disaster for republicans though. n/t Lil Missy Nov 2014 #8

No it won't scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #15

congess won't act. it's that simple. spanone Nov 2014 #20

They will now , they have no choice scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #24

you give them waaaay to much credit. spanone Nov 2014 #48

They have not in the past.... ollie4 Nov 2014 #72

How long do you propose the President should wait? He's been waiting 6 years now. shraby Nov 2014 #38

That's a republican talking point. Lil Missy Nov 2014 #63

Where do you live that it is such a big deal? jwirr Nov 2014 #106

There are some who want that to be the case... Spazito Nov 2014 #9

Polls show that people support a path to citizenship, even republicans. What 'disaster' are pampango Nov 2014 #10

Reference those polls please. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #13

Conservative republicans are the least supportive of legal status (54%). pampango Nov 2014 #21

Look what happened Ink Man Nov 2014 #34

Thanks. That hardly cancels out the desire of most Americans to see a path to legal status for them pampango Nov 2014 #47

Yes, but the Pew study was from June of 2013. amandabeech Nov 2014 #78

I guess we don't agree on how ready the country is for immigration reform. For sure, pampango Nov 2014 #81

A year ago I would have agreed with you, but with the comments I've heard over the past few amandabeech Nov 2014 #83

You are using poll numbers from Jun 2013. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #70

Here's one from 2 months ago - September. pampango Nov 2014 #87

Your own numbers don't support your argument Savannahmann Nov 2014 #90

My numbers are for people who support a path to legalization. Some support as the main priority, pampango Nov 2014 #97

Fancy that, a person who hates the ACA also whining about geek tragedy Nov 2014 #95

Baloney Savannahmann Nov 2014 #113

Asdf geek tragedy Nov 2014 #114

Baloney Again Savannahmann Nov 2014 #115

Besides your claim that the ACA was a voucher program in disguise, there's geek tragedy Nov 2014 #116

You've done much to prove nothing. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #118

Just so people don't get the wrong idea, your PM was full of virulently hateful geek tragedy Nov 2014 #120

From wiki: "A tell in poker is a change in a player's behavior or demeanor that is claimed by some FSogol Nov 2014 #11

Been waiting... likesmountains 52 Nov 2014 #101

Seems to me that 2naSalit Nov 2014 #14

Disaster? It'd be great...always a good idea to pick a fight with Repukes... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #16

The President can work out a bill with Congress scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #18

Have you been paying attention the last 6 years? joeybee12 Nov 2014 #19

Yeah, that was a bit Twilight Zone-ish. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #26

600+ posts and he/she is still bored... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #40

Since October. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #46

Let's do a DU pool to see if he makes it to December... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #49

I'd say yes, based on the fact that... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #52

This current foot stomping thread on GOP impotence is especially funny alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #59

They will on this because they have to scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #31

Who has to? Why do they have to? WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #44

Why do they *have to* pass a bill? Why should they? Their voters don't want one. So they won't. freshwest Nov 2014 #122

Which Congress? JaneyVee Nov 2014 #22

LOL tammywammy Nov 2014 #28

Many of us would have preferred that, but their tea party wing has repubs too scared pampango Nov 2014 #29

Good luck selling that here AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #25

No we wouldn't Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #61

I agree. amandabeech Nov 2014 #79

Thank you for your concern...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #27

that is exactly what I was gonna write Kali Nov 2014 #57

Hispanics & Lantinos are 12.5% of the population **and growing** baldguy Nov 2014 #30

I don't want the President to ignore it , the majority of the country wants to scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #35

So, how is it a "disaster" if the President does what the majority of the country wants? baldguy Nov 2014 #39

Because a vast majority oppose taking Executive action on the issue Savannahmann Nov 2014 #76

The Rethugs in Congress should lead, follow, or get out of the way on immigration. Since they Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #33

There are other elections than the next one, we'd best secure the block if we wish to win them. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #36

Best response in the thread, imho. Along those lines, U.S. Grant fought a very early KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #107

Yo BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #37

Bring back the unrec option. Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #41

I agree. jwirr Nov 2014 #111

When Republicans speak of immigration reform, they mean something punitive. I like Obama's plan. Hoyt Nov 2014 #42

concern troll is concerned, nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #43

Legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair! H2O Man Nov 2014 #45

Oh, just stuff it. HERVEPA Nov 2014 #50

"Saint Ronnie" did it, so why is it a disaster for dems, again..? peacebird Nov 2014 #51

if it would be a disaster for the Dems Enrique Nov 2014 #53

Let the chips fall where they may, it's the right thing to do. MerryBlooms Nov 2014 #54

lol - pissed about that TBF Nov 2014 #55

See below... 2naSalit Nov 2014 #56

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #58

forgive me if I put party first scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #64

Which party? pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #66

Ha! alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #71

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #60

Tell congress to get off their ass! B Calm Nov 2014 #62

Stop watching FOX nt abelenkpe Nov 2014 #67

What? You think if Democrats don't do things Gman Nov 2014 #69

It will be good for the country frazzled Nov 2014 #73

Serves 2 purposes. BKH70041 Nov 2014 #74

The problem is that more non-Hispanic voters are seeing the "cheap labor" end of it. amandabeech Nov 2014 #82

Where else do they have to go? BKH70041 Nov 2014 #112

They'll stay home or vote pub. amandabeech Nov 2014 #128

On what do you base your prediction of disaster? MineralMan Nov 2014 #75

Why? jazzimov Nov 2014 #77

Because it is the right thing to do. (And it won't be a disaster.) Vattel Nov 2014 #80

Democrats will be MFM008 Nov 2014 #84

Like Ebola? GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #85

Thank you for posting this customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #86

I'll be the first to support this and recognize the political danger JonLP24 Nov 2014 #121

Better question.. why are there a couple of members who aren't? Cha Nov 2014 #88

... YvonneCa Nov 2014 #91

They're scared! Cha Nov 2014 #98

Back at you... YvonneCa Nov 2014 #109

Because we don't want to lose the White House in 2016. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #92

So you favor deporting DREAMers then. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #96

It's hilarious watching the alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #93

EO on Immigration.. Cha Nov 2014 #99

I support it If House does not act on the Senate comprehensive bill. riversedge Nov 2014 #89

Where does this idea come from Yupster Nov 2014 #117

The White House dials up the number of H1B visas each year via executive action. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2014 #94

Maybe no hair on fire, but hair does get singed regularly on the H1B topic. amandabeech Nov 2014 #129

Why would it be a disaster? brush Nov 2014 #102

Your conversation is purely Republic0n speak. Stellar Nov 2014 #105

Because it's the right thing to do and Republicans are incapable of governing. - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #108

It's standing up on principle...and the disaster would be cry baby Nov 2014 #110

Evaluating whether something should or should not be done JonLP24 Nov 2014 #119

It's already a disaster for 12 million people Old Nick Nov 2014 #124

Because it is the right fucking thing to do for the people affected. JEB Nov 2014 #125

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