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JonLP24

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59. White House communications & press secretary crack me up

Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:32 AM

Nov 2014

with some of the lies they come up with. "actually filled out by someone else." Strikes me as a lie -- here is a copy of the signed statement "filled out by someone else" http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/images/publications/wct/2009-01-14/current.pdf

Obama clearly stated that lack (in 2004)
of support for full marriage equality was a matter of strategy rather than principle, but in even
more recent comments, it appears he is backing
off even further, saying it is more of a religious
issue, and also a “state” issue, so he favors civil
unions.

He still had a general election to worry about to me it is telling his "evolving" on the issue evolved with the poll numbers. Again, this isn't an area where I have major policy differences with Obama.

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Why did progressives support Howard Dean?? [View all] kentuck Nov 2014 OP

He reminded some people of themselves. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #1

Dean was crucial, which is why the press had to trash him with the Dean Scream Wella Nov 2014 #2

Howard Dean was a terrible candidate period. Legalequilibrium78 Nov 2014 #13

Your bias is noted. Wella Nov 2014 #14

I don't get where you are going hfojvt Nov 2014 #16

Bullshit on horseshit. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #49

The Dean "scream" is what destroyed 18yo me's faith in the MSM. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #50

AFTER his campaign was already collapsing (3rd place finish in Iowa) brooklynite Nov 2014 #63

Because he wasn't a corporate sell out. Rex Nov 2014 #3

if Dean isn't a corporate sell out then neither is Hillary Clinton JI7 Nov 2014 #6

Never said she was. Rex Nov 2014 #7

Sadly he is one now. Works for Big Pharma. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #21

He showed up on stage with a baseball bat when netroots people asked him to Recursion Nov 2014 #4

i didn't support Dean for same reason i didn't support Hillary JI7 Nov 2014 #5

Well hfojvt Nov 2014 #17

That raising the cap talking point is such BS, too. joshcryer Nov 2014 #25

seems to be a moot point anyway hfojvt Nov 2014 #67

I think some of them saw him as the electable peace candidate. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #8

didn't Dean do better than Kucinich even after Dean dropped out ? JI7 Nov 2014 #11

That's what I was saying. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #27

wouldn't it have made more sense for Kucinich to endorse Dean because Kucinich was so far down JI7 Nov 2014 #29

Not AFTER Dean withdrew. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #34

maybe Kucinich should have given voters a reason to vote for him JI7 Nov 2014 #40

Years later-AFTER being gerrymandered into the same district as another Dem. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #42

so he couldn't even win a Dem District ? JI7 Nov 2014 #43

Mary Kaptur's disctrict & Kucinich's district were combined due to gerry mandering JonLP24 Nov 2014 #45

Marcy Kaptur is NOT a Republican, she is a Democrat and she beat Kucinich in the Dem Primary JI7 Nov 2014 #46

I got the facts mixed up but believe it or not I knew Kaptur well (from the bailout crisis) JonLP24 Nov 2014 #47

Oh, he was definitely the best man for the job. Warpy Nov 2014 #9

He was a Democrat but he wasn't pure... kentuck Nov 2014 #10

I see... sendero Nov 2014 #66

He held the best ideas on universal health care and in having Cleita Nov 2014 #12

Maybe it is a looking back thing. oldandhappy Nov 2014 #15

He spoke out strongly against the war and he implemented healthcare to his state Beaverhausen Nov 2014 #18

Yes, but like Obama, two issues doesn't make him a liberal. Those are TWO issues!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #20

You should see Candidate Obama vs President Obama debate JonLP24 Nov 2014 #35

Polifact is full of shit. Go look at the actual record. I think what helped me understand Obama Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #55

Actual record is where my differences lie JonLP24 Nov 2014 #56

The gay marriage issue was never resolved. But, why during a DEMOCRATIC primary Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #58

White House communications & press secretary crack me up JonLP24 Nov 2014 #59

Can you answer the full question please? Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #61

Yes, kentuck! YES!!!! I've been saying this for YEARS!! Yes!! Liberals blindily support Dean... Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #19

Most change for the top Dems is following the polls. joshcryer Nov 2014 #23

center-right platform? JonLP24 Nov 2014 #31

I considered his gay position right wing. joshcryer Nov 2014 #39

When Blue Dogs take the DNC chair JonLP24 Nov 2014 #44

On LGBT equality Dean was a dishonest conservative and thus not at all to my liking Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #54

I think many Dems are more personally liberal but can't be publicly as liberal. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #52

I wanted to beat Bush. joshcryer Nov 2014 #22

The debate was over the "confederate flags on pickups" JonLP24 Nov 2014 #30

Yep, Dean was inarticulate. joshcryer Nov 2014 #38

It just depends on who and how the political discourse is controlled JonLP24 Nov 2014 #41

Moderate was the image JonLP24 Nov 2014 #24

My views are/were kind of the same as Dean bigwillq Nov 2014 #26

And now he's working for Hillary flamingdem Nov 2014 #28

Howard Dean is a brilliant man, a fantastic governor, and a damn good politician. LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #32

When people brag about governors balancing budgets, it just gets under my skin! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #57

Vermont wasn't one of those states JonLP24 Nov 2014 #60

Vermont doesn't have that requirement. LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #64

Someone else explained it. Dean should brag about it, then. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #65

Single Payer. Anti-war. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #33

Howard wasn't looking at a checklist when he entered the national stage DFW Nov 2014 #36

I supported him. Still do, actually. ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2014 #37

Because despite being a moderate he actually gave a shit about reforming the system. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #48

He was feisty BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #51

Because he didn't win. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #53

Answer: they didn't brooklynite Nov 2014 #62

because he didn't bullshit people on where he stood. dionysus Nov 2014 #68