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47. not yet

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 02:10 PM

Dec 2011

I think they're still in the 'health exchange' phase to satisfy the requirements of the 2010 Health Act. The only way around that would be to pass a specific amendment that would expressly allow single payer. At least that's the state of the issue right now.

The exchange would be replaced by the plan Vermont passed sometime between 2014 and 2017, if HHS is going to grant the waiver. Vermont is thinking more 2014, I'm sure. That would give Vermont access to the money in the national health act to set up their single-payer plan.

Of course, that does nothing to get rid of the other private insurers in the state, so it's going to challenge the cost-savings a single plan would offer.

There are also a few others needed for Medicare, Medicaid and veterans' affairs to get those on line.

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Re: Matt Damon, from Liberal comedian Rob Delaney [View all] FarLeftFist Dec 2011 OP

Can't say it any better than that. Damon needs to realize Obama is better than any republican. southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #1

you clearly didn't read a word of it beyond the headline! kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #12

I believe Damon realizes that President Obama could be much better than he now is. A Simple Game Dec 2011 #55

The grandkids may have health insurance.... izquierdista Dec 2011 #2

Right ProSense Dec 2011 #5

I'm putting you on a plane to DC so you can be in charge of the Democratic messaging. gateley Dec 2011 #11

Has Vermont been granted its waiver yet? mmonk Dec 2011 #18

not yet bigtree Dec 2011 #47

I didn't think so. Therefore, I don't think it should be counted mmonk Dec 2011 #56

As a uninsured person, it's not going to get better. Feron Dec 2011 #38

Yea, I wonder about how to make it to Medicare age too. izquierdista Dec 2011 #41

LOL great white snark Dec 2011 #3

"Obama let you down? Blow it out your ass." YES! phleshdef Dec 2011 #4

Here's ProSense Dec 2011 #9

Healthcare Reform and Financial reform alone are more than what most Presidents get done in 1st term phleshdef Dec 2011 #13

Sorta funny zipplewrath Dec 2011 #22

If you take that sentence at literal value, its mostly true. phleshdef Dec 2011 #44

yeah, that's how he meant it zipplewrath Dec 2011 #49

If the corporate health system is sustainable to last for them. mmonk Dec 2011 #6

This from someone who didn't vote for Obama in '08? EOTE Dec 2011 #7

I say ProSense Dec 2011 #10

I can pretty much guarantee that there will be more going the other direction. EOTE Dec 2011 #25

Well that may be true... Whiskeytide Dec 2011 #37

If the left abandons the democratic candidates, the candidates will have to come back to the left. EOTE Dec 2011 #53

ANY Moderate Republican who voted McCain in 2008, bvar22 Dec 2011 #48

I don't get the Damon reference -- but I'm gleaning he said he gateley Dec 2011 #8

Here: emulatorloo Dec 2011 #14

Thanks -- wow, don't know how I missed that! nt gateley Dec 2011 #46

so, he suggests we not attempt to hold a politician to their slogans, G_j Dec 2011 #15

Well ProSense Dec 2011 #19

sounds to me like he is talking to a certain group of people G_j Dec 2011 #23

Nope ProSense Dec 2011 #24

Almost certainly NOT directed at Damon muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #26

Disagree ProSense Dec 2011 #27

Your interpretation is incorrect DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #30

Not mentioning Damon was 'hyperbolic'? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #32

A man who didn't vote for Obama, heralded here, in this post, deserves recs? boston bean Dec 2011 #16

it seems like it's bash matt damon newspeak Dec 2011 #20

Oh please ProSense Dec 2011 #21

I alternated cheers& hisses all through the piece.(Cheers on the OBAMA side, to remove all doubt)nt UTUSN Dec 2011 #17

I love minimally talented celebrities who take umbrage joeybee12 Dec 2011 #28

Hmmm? ProSense Dec 2011 #29

Who is he? A guy who did not vote for Obama. Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #40

Yeah, I would've loved to unrec the Damon post. CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #33

Great rebuttal to Damon's naive outburst. CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #31

Obama is a millionaire who doesn't care about anybody is a great rebuttal? EFerrari Dec 2011 #35

No...seems you missed the gist of it. Read up. CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #36

I didn't miss anything. EFerrari Dec 2011 #50

Yes, Obama 2012: UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #57

That part sounded facetious to me. Considering what he said next. Zalatix Dec 2011 #52

K'd & R'd DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #34

So Delaney did not vote for Obama and he's quarreling with those who did? Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #39

Ah yes, the famous Rob Delaney. Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #42

Middles everywhere thank him for making them look respectable. EFerrari Dec 2011 #54

Another of his 'liberal jokes' Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #43

+1 Cameron27 Dec 2011 #58

If I was a C-list celebrity, it'd be smart for me to pick a feud with an A-lister like Matt Damon Bucky Dec 2011 #45

Bingo!!! K&R Zalatix Dec 2011 #51