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10. "so what you're saying is that you want companies to be as unethical as possible?"
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:52 PM
Nov 2014

if an economic transaction affects only buyer and seller, with a free exchange of honest information, then by and large i'd agree there should be little or no regulation.

but regulation often deals with third parties getting screwed over by someone else's economic transaction (e.g., one that causes pollution). should we abandon these innocent people? in any real system of ethics, it's a crime to steal something from a third party, and if the first and second parties agree to profit from the third party's loss, it amounts to a conspiracy. mere "regulation" is the lightest form of protection one could reasonably think appropriate here.

other regulation deals with fraud. no third party here, just a company claiming their product does one thing, but in truth it doesn't, or it has hidden costs or hidden risks. one could argue "let the buyer beware", but you know, we tried that and people died. lots of people died. society has decided that consumers aren't lab rats, and shouldn't be risking their lives when they buy a toy because some unethical boss decided to save a few bucks by using toxic paint.

the reality is that consumers without such regulations, buyers pay a very, very heavy price before the market "gets it right" and stops using ingredients that kill or otherwise harm.

the fundamental principle here is that economic transactions should *increase* the economic well-being of society. whenever it *decreases* it, that's a problem, and regulation can and should stop in.

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Or ask them if they want Koch Bros owned Georgia Pacific to be allowed to pour randys1 Nov 2014 #1
I agree, show them whatever works..here is another example.. Stuart G Nov 2014 #2
When Nader was insisting seat belts be mandatory, what we KNOW FOR A FACT is ALL teaparty randys1 Nov 2014 #4
A few weeks ago I was dining with some RW friends when a statement was made Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #3
Here is an easy one to show them... Stuart G Nov 2014 #6
Any regs proposed MUST come from a white conservative otherwise they will kill randys1 Nov 2014 #7
But do they fail in regulating abortion clinics? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #8
No shit, they regulate the hell out of them, but we know all cons are hypocrites randys1 Nov 2014 #9
Time to bring back this old chestnut. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2014 #5
"so what you're saying is that you want companies to be as unethical as possible?" unblock Nov 2014 #10
tell them to fly in an airplane that has had no government supervision.... spanone Nov 2014 #11
Outstanding point..no air traffic control..no regs on airplane specs, no safety features Stuart G Nov 2014 #12
how about those gov't regulated red, green & yellow lights that pop up every few intersections? spanone Nov 2014 #13
Nothing, because trying to teach a fish to fly Aerows Nov 2014 #14
But camels CAN swim ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #16
Try to enforce a contract without Socialist Courts and Law Enforcement. One_Life_To_Give Nov 2014 #15
Oh, please, they all hate that nanny state seat belt stuff Warpy Nov 2014 #17
Helen Chenoweth, conservative congresswoman, died from not wearing one. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2014 #18
Thank You for the example.. Stuart G Nov 2014 #19
Detroit fought safety when Ralph Nader wrote "Unsafe at any speed" about the Corvair. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2014 #21
I'd tell them to go mine coal with no regs. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #20
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