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1StrongBlackMan

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59. Why, when I read some of the comments to these kind of OPs ...

Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:58 PM

Nov 2014

i.e., OPs that provide prescriptions for moving forward ... that involves, actual work, am I reminded of a football team I played for as a freshman and sophomore?

The coach installed the offense and defensive schemes, and a segment of the team spent most of their time walking through the drills and talking about how the coach only played the upper-classmen (with the exception of a few under-classmen that worked hard during practice), and talking about how hard hitting the other team was.

Unsurprisingly, that was a losing team.

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It�s Elizabeth Warren�s party now! How to remake it in the liberal heroine�s image [View all] ashling Nov 2014 OP

Excellent article, with some very good pointers. Thanks! ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #1

Be careful. Because of wild claims like this, anything and everything that goes wrong... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #2

"If they're smart,..." BKH70041 Nov 2014 #4

But then Warren will be just another bought-and-paid-for puppet of the RW Third Way baldguy Nov 2014 #5

lol AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #45

Yeah. By you. Union Scribe Nov 2014 #15

People are coming to a determination that meets their biases. MADem Nov 2014 #29

Where's the blame? aspirant Nov 2014 #40

But but but I hear Third Way libertarians on here howling that liberals have no power in the party. Rex Nov 2014 #3

To the contrary, I thought it was us liberals who howled that liberals had no power in the party. pampango Nov 2014 #7

Well if you listen to libertarians, we have none. So when someone liberal runs Rex Nov 2014 #8

Pure, Purity doesn't that just ring of Frank Luntz? aspirant Nov 2014 #41

Yes it does! Rex Nov 2014 #42

Good article! peacebird Nov 2014 #6

Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #53

Elizabeth is too far left for the Hillary voters who more comfortable right of center. bowens43 Nov 2014 #9

And HRC is too far right for voters who are more comfortable middle or left. peacebird Nov 2014 #10

Hillary is left, she is not right, where did you get your information? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #13

Oh you ARE funny!! Hillary is LEFT!! Riiiight... RiverLover Nov 2014 #16

Site: http://ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #18

What she says running for president doesn't match what she has done. RiverLover Nov 2014 #19

Obliviously you did not go to the site, if you would have you would have found Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #20

She promoted the TPP, and that helps the 90%? Yep, you're funny. RiverLover Nov 2014 #26

I may be funny but I am correct. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #27

Yeah, she really threw her weight on Walmart's Board of Directors closeupready Nov 2014 #57

Yes she did, thought more females should be promoted. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #58

LOL, save it for an audience that will not know better. closeupready Nov 2014 #60

Have you ever served on a board of directors? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #61

Not over a 7-year period of time like Hillary. closeupready Nov 2014 #62

Serving on a board does not make one bad, if Hillary served on a board of directors for seven years Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #63

I realize you are heavily vested in this, but that was then. Hillary promoted offshoring American RiverLover Nov 2014 #64

Your proof of Hillary promoting offshoring of jobs is not in the article you posted. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #65

Its kind of well known, old news, how embarrassing for you, Here you go~ RiverLover Nov 2014 #66

I do not have anything to be embarrassed on this subject. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #68

Then how could you not know Hillary was heavily promoting the TPP? ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #69

Go back and read the post again, never said I did not know of Hillary promoting TPP. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #70

If I say the sky is blue, would you expect me to post a link proving it? RiverLover Nov 2014 #72

What? I said while she was on the walmart board she promoted made in America Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #73

That -may- be true, I only know she's not for "Made in America" anymore. TPP proves it. RiverLover Nov 2014 #81

Well, you can distort the facts all you want, doesn't make it true. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #82

I don't understand what you're arguing. The other poster is correct-- Marr Nov 2014 #84

NAFTA did Recursion Nov 2014 #37

Your own graph shows Median Income declining after the passage of NAFTA. U4ikLefty Nov 2014 #38

Nope. It started in 1994 Recursion Nov 2014 #39

Shhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #54

You have to pass minimum wage increases, though. joshcryer Nov 2014 #79

Of course we do. And invest in job training and infrastructure Recursion Nov 2014 #83

Yep, but these truths will be shut down soon. TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #22

Are you talking about the sites where politicans stand on the issues? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #25

Also loves H1-B visas. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #34

And Obama is a communist.... daleanime Nov 2014 #24

Hard core liberals don't support the TPP or H-1B Visa program... cascadiance Nov 2014 #30

I am not a hard core liberal. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #32

Well, duh. If you were, you wouldn't be promoting Hillary. ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #33

Go to the site referred in earlier, and if you venture to the end you will find Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #51

So Chuck Schumer just about always works a deal pushing H-1B program expansion in legislation... cascadiance Nov 2014 #87

Are you serious? Since immigration is on the minds of many Democrats you want to point to this as Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #89

Yes, H-1B programs are indentured servant slave labor programs. cascadiance Nov 2014 #92

Disagree with you, kinda getting sidetracked. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #93

Why are you doing this? Over & over, "Hillary is Hard Core Liberal" when that is laughbable RiverLover Nov 2014 #90

Disproved, no, why do you continue to reply without proof she is not liberal? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #91

But you ARE just claiming in so many words that Hillary is in your post here! cascadiance Nov 2014 #44

Where does it state unless one is as hard core as another I can not support them? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #52

It's Thanksgiving dinner Ink Man Nov 2014 #11

pretty sure they agree on big defense spending JI7 Nov 2014 #14

Elizabeth is 19th most liberal Senator. Clinton was 10th. joshcryer Nov 2014 #43

So is the poll that puts these kind of nonsense numbers too corporatist to post a link to? cascadiance Nov 2014 #46

Uh, look it up. joshcryer Nov 2014 #49

Links: joshcryer Nov 2014 #76

As the comments note at the bottom these "ratings" are a JOKE! cascadiance Nov 2014 #86

+1 I would like to see how they tallied that up. ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #88

All data that does not support my pre-conceived judgment ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #55

There are several potential reasons for this. joshcryer Nov 2014 #78

I suspect that Warren is DU's uber-liberal ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #80

Put that thing away, josh. You'll put someone's eye out around here Number23 Nov 2014 #75

Hey! Thanks for responding! joshcryer Nov 2014 #77

No, not particularly... brooklynite Nov 2014 #50

You are a 1%, so who cares what you think? (Sarcasm) ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #56

Correct Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #94

http://www.elizabethwarrenforpresident.com/ ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #12

Howard Dean brought back to head DNC would help. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2014 #17

Ding Ding. We have a winner! nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #28

Why? Recursion Nov 2014 #31

It's my impression that both have the capacity to inspire & energize a grass roots movement, and Faryn Balyncd Nov 2014 #36

I would say the opposite Amishman Nov 2014 #48

I don't think its opposite. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2014 #74

She better get Tant Richards out of Florida! TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #23

It's her party when she becomes a presidential nominee geek tragedy Nov 2014 #35

Unfortunately with the corporatists infecting the party for 20+ years, it is hard to get experience cascadiance Nov 2014 #47

Why, when I read some of the comments to these kind of OPs ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #59

Elizabeth Warren's take on the Trans-Pacific Partnership RiverLover Nov 2014 #67

And at a speech this year, on the TPP~ RiverLover Nov 2014 #71

Kick. n/t area51 Nov 2014 #85