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TexasMommaWithAHat

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24. That nation wasn't funding the Department of Defense

Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:47 PM

Nov 2014

And no one, today, is going to start a new life by saving for a covered wagon, taking a trip westward, and living off the land.

Not to mention that I want universal HEALTH care, universal preschool, and free community college. I want better social safety nets. I want better wages.

I just don't think we're going to get those things as long as employers can use undocumented immigrants to drive down wages. As of now, the mentality in this country is "survival of the fittest."

And don't get me started on what H1-B visas are doing to programmers' jobs.

My son-in-law (programmer) was just put on a new project because he is the only American citizen in his group, and a particular government contract requires it. He jokes, "Mom, I'm the white person at work, except I'm not white!" (He's second generation Asian.)

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Actress tells how parents were taken, deported. Left alone at 14. No govt agency checked on her. [View all] madfloridian Nov 2014 OP

Imaginary borders are something we accept as a reality LanternWaste Nov 2014 #1

+1000 nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #2

Borders are not "imaginary" TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #13

This times a million AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #22

We could strive to think with our brains.... Rose Siding Nov 2014 #39

Yes, I saw that little dig also. madfloridian Nov 2014 #42

+1 Enthusiast Nov 2014 #53

If your brain can't think of better than this Jakes Progress Nov 2014 #54

It's one thing to create boarders against Heather MC Nov 2014 #46

Meaning what? Jakes Progress Nov 2014 #55

The poor woman. What a brave soul. I wish I could have been around to help. BlueJazz Nov 2014 #3

YES, but the GOP do NOT CARE sammy750 Nov 2014 #4

As an attorney, I advised persons in the U.S. without papers to MAKE A PLAN for the children, Shrike47 Nov 2014 #5

Don't you think Immigration should plan better than leaving kids without parents? madfloridian Nov 2014 #6

I agree completely with you. Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #7

Yes they should Demobrat Nov 2014 #12

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Because their home country is a violent place ruled by druglords perhaps? peacebird Nov 2014 #29

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #35

Lol the library will be closing soon azurnoir Nov 2014 #36

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I hear there's some debate over that anchor baby law tho. redruddyred Nov 2014 #49

That would be shameful JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #51

it was just an idea floated about in a conservative magazine. redruddyred Nov 2014 #62

We are like them actually JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #67

I'd like to be a citizen of another country. redruddyred Nov 2014 #68

Perhaps the parents preferred that INS/the state NOT "take control" of the kids SoCalDem Nov 2014 #37

+1000 Starry Messenger Nov 2014 #52

Back in the late 80's.... Xithras Nov 2014 #44

What would happen to me if I snuck into social democracies such as Denmark or Norway hoping vkkv Nov 2014 #8

It's awful how you can't even turn on the news kcr Nov 2014 #9

........ madfloridian Nov 2014 #10

Exactly vkkv Nov 2014 #11

Why should anyone stop crossing the borders? TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #15

You sound like you have a problem with "illegals" crossing the border. justiceischeap Nov 2014 #21

That nation wasn't funding the Department of Defense TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #24

What is *really* preventing us from getting all those lovely benefits tblue37 Nov 2014 #65

We ARe that nation, still. The US has always let immigrants into this county dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #34

This is a natural result of American hegemony. Maedhros Nov 2014 #32

We know they won't let us stay TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #14

Right. That's the reason. kcr Nov 2014 #16

The odds of getting deported are worth the risk TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #17

If things are bad enough in the US, the same holds true kcr Nov 2014 #18

Actually, I don't try to get into Vancouver or France TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #19

Do you think that's the reason why every American makes that decision? kcr Nov 2014 #20

Well, there's also the point that even though lots of Americans talk about immigrating elsewhere justiceischeap Nov 2014 #23

Yes, and frankly, I think it's absurd to compare the two kcr Nov 2014 #28

Have you ever noticed how many people here declare that would move TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #27

The ocean between here and Canada? I must have missed it. kcr Nov 2014 #30

No. TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #31

So sane equals making children into uncured for orphans. Jakes Progress Nov 2014 #57

And perhaps leave children behind to fend for themselves. madfloridian Nov 2014 #26

They came legally, vkkv Nov 2014 #33

Don't think there were any rules or laws about immigrants back then. madfloridian Nov 2014 #38

No rules back then... vkkv Nov 2014 #40

Hey, I get it. madfloridian Nov 2014 #41

oh no ellis island was brutal. redruddyred Nov 2014 #48

Ellis Island didn't open unti the very late 1800s REP Nov 2014 #60

how did they manage to keep the 'undesirables' out? redruddyred Nov 2014 #63

Before Ellis Island, each port of entry kept track REP Nov 2014 #64

There were if you weren't white, and the length of time to become a citizen was manipulated REP Nov 2014 #43

I hear it's really tough for europeans too tho. redruddyred Nov 2014 #47

Not in the timeframe under discussion (1700s to 1875) REP Nov 2014 #61

vkkv Diclotican Nov 2014 #50

So simplistic. So reaonabobble. Jakes Progress Nov 2014 #56

I missed the part where Denmark's policies were destabilizing the US and rending it lawless. LeftyMom Nov 2014 #66

Obama's announcement tomorrow. madfloridian Nov 2014 #58

It's really amazing she's still alive. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #59

Bet she was glad to hear Obama's message tonight. madfloridian Nov 2014 #69