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AnalystInParadise

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102. Racism exists

Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:48 AM

Nov 2014

all across society. White on black racism, white on Hispanic racism white on Asian racism, Black on white racism, Asian on Black racism, the permutations are vast.

What does not necessarily exist is racism in St. Louis County if the Grand Jury does not indict in this one particular case.

I am more than willing to let justice be served and if the investigation indicts and goes to trial that is a good thing because it means the system found enough evidence to try to prove a crime was committed.

Conversely

If the system does not indict it means the system investigated and believed that no crime took place, or that the facts leave enough reasonable doubt that a crime occurred.

Saying it is racism 10,000 times if there is no indictment does not make it racism, it makes you unwilling to accept that the investigation discovered no crime. This is so elementary and it is telling of people's motivations that I am receiving flack for being rational, consistent and logical.

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UNFUCK AMERICA! Blackness is not a threat. [View all] sheshe2 Nov 2014 OP

k&r... spanone Nov 2014 #1

If ANYBODY... Has The Claim Of... "You Didn't Build That !!!"... It's Black Folk... WillyT Nov 2014 #2

I get the anger loyalsister Nov 2014 #3

Maybe so. I doubt Missouri's police are THAT corrupt....or so I'd hope, anyway. nt AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #9

I don't know exactly how corrupt loyalsister Nov 2014 #12

Really? sheshe2 Nov 2014 #17

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #54

Thanks Live and Learn! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #119

I had intended to refer to the possibility of the State Police turning a blind eye to the Klan. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #66

They aready have Joe. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #86

Yes, they are THAT corrupt! Stellar Nov 2014 #144

25% of the police and guard are probably KKK. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #62

Probably? loyalsister Nov 2014 #67

More like 0% but 25 feels better. ileus Nov 2014 #133

This weekend mercuryblues Nov 2014 #132

+1000 JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #140

I need some butter AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #4

I am confused here. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #5

No it's not funny AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #10

Holy shit! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #13

I wonder what's the opinion of that poster about the Zimmerman trial? BeanMusical Nov 2014 #125

You asked? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #159

Yea, I think the meaning of the word "justice" could be subjective. It just depends on which side nc4bo Nov 2014 #14

Man oh man..., BronxBoy Nov 2014 #16

WTF?? bvf Nov 2014 #19

They are consistent thoughts AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #21

It must be very nice to be able to afford that luxury. nc4bo Nov 2014 #22

And people wonder why so many people of color have left DU. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #51

Correcting basic factual misperceptions AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #96

You're one strike away from getting a vacation. BeanMusical Nov 2014 #105

At some point it will happen AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #107

You have no way of knowing if racism is involved or not in the decision. kwassa Nov 2014 #137

That makes no sense. Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #151

Interesting that you know that....... AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #108

It's in your profile. nt Quackers Nov 2014 #112

Thank you AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #114

Shhh Quackers Nov 2014 #109

Thank you. AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #111

LOL! Thank you for posting that ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #160

I saw that too.nt bravenak Nov 2014 #165

Next up ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #168

OMG! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #188

What is Russian Mexican? treestar Nov 2014 #207

He is Russian and he is Mexican AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #210

Then he's a white Mexican treestar Nov 2014 #211

No AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #212

Well... BronxBoy Nov 2014 #28

Unfortunately, it's not naivete... BklnDem75 Nov 2014 #33

I know... BronxBoy Nov 2014 #42

Because white privilege needs a voice, I would suppose... MrScorpio Nov 2014 #30

Thamk you for posting that ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #46

+1 BeanMusical Nov 2014 #123

How will you know if the system DOESN'T work? tkmorris Nov 2014 #36

You're saying the system always works? arcane1 Nov 2014 #38

Obviously..... BronxBoy Nov 2014 #45

Circular logic may be logical and consistent cprise Nov 2014 #43

Oh goody! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #65

How can he believe racism doesn't exist JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #141

Yup, like a term of endearment, JAG~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #167

Does justice always prevail when there is no indictment? Or just this time? arcane1 Nov 2014 #26

I don't have a preference AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #98

I think you have no idea what the difference is between an indictment and a trial. graegoyle Nov 2014 #104

No....I know exactly what they both are. AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #106

Really? That Simple. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #122

Indictment by the GRAND JURY, means: graegoyle Dec 2014 #216

" If there is no indictment, it means the system worked and justice prevailed." rhett o rick Nov 2014 #52

What BS. Do you know how easy it generally is to get an indictment? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #56

You shoot and kill an unarmed man 20 feet away scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #84

Yes Sheshe2, some do. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #57

what about riots do you find so funny? dionysus Nov 2014 #6

Thank you dionysus... sheshe2 Nov 2014 #8

Thank you for noticing my posting habits. AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #115

Well you sure as hell are all over this thread~! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #120

Yeah... It Should Be Real Entertaining Watching The Killer Apes Going After Black Folk... WillyT Nov 2014 #7

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #68

Perhaps some steak... BklnDem75 Nov 2014 #135

Is it still racist if there are actually riots? Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #11

Holy Shit. We are debating that racism is or is not alive and well in 2014!? sheshe2 Nov 2014 #15

Hear, hear... mimi85 Nov 2014 #23

hugs to you mimi! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #127

They will tell you that there is NO racism here at DU and none in the Democratic Party. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #44

No,LS ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #50

And they will be wrong every damn time. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #58

And they can go and do their own fricking homework LS! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #53

Racism exists AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #102

The grand jury does what the prosecutor tells it to. kwassa Nov 2014 #138

thanks kwassa JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #142

There is no such thing as non-white on white RACISM in America ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #161

That's simply not true. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #163

Perhaps you should . .. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #164

I have a degree in history and government. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #173

I offer you the following 21st Century (academic) definitions ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #195

I don't see anything there that can only be applied... NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #198

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #199

As I said earlier, we are just not going to agree on this. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #200

We can not agree because .. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #202

Modern perhaps, but widely accepted? NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #206

And thank you for returning the favor AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #178

Facts are often considered "Dumb" by the ignorant ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #196

More than ever before maced666 Nov 2014 #48

Who is denying anything.... AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #100

It does not necessrily exist here? Why? sheshe2 Nov 2014 #129

Crickets from you! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #208

Prime example of why I rarely come here any more... OneGrassRoot Nov 2014 #203

You just made me cry OneGrassRoot. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #205

The Ferguson Police Department look fully prepared to go-a-rioting MrScorpio Nov 2014 #35

They are locked and loaded... sheshe2 Nov 2014 #90

Does anyone doubt there will be riots? Should the police do nothing? Remember..... Logical Nov 2014 #18

Well, should police be allowed to use excessive force against black protesters? sheshe2 Nov 2014 #24

Of course not! But I am sure Black business owners would like the police to protect their..... Logical Nov 2014 #25

I want a logical solution. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #49

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #61

WOW ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #64

Well said! I've noticed this too n/t Spazito Nov 2014 #77

Yup, I guess there is a difference of whose rights have meaning. Yours obviously do not. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #80

I'm confused what your plan is...... Logical Nov 2014 #89

It is all about who they aim their protection for or at. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #91

What if the protestors quietly sit down JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #143

Of course not. Nt Logical Nov 2014 #150

So - not even that is acceptable to you? JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #152

WTF are you talking about, I said not to go after them. Reading hard? nt Logical Nov 2014 #155

WTF - Reading hard? n/t You weren't clear. WTF! You weren't clear! WTF!!!!!! JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #158

Not the same situation Egnever Nov 2014 #39

Apples and Oranges? sheshe2 Nov 2014 #92

How many gas stations did Bundy burn down? Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #40

Yeah... BklnDem75 Nov 2014 #83

He's a thief and a tax cheat and needs to go to jail JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #156

Brava! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #169

Grazie Bambala! JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #172

How many did Ferguson protestors burn down? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #209

Yeah, I'm not bothered by the Gov's actions today. I'm just worried. arcane1 Nov 2014 #27

I agree, the KKK shit worries me. It is sad I don't 100% trust some of the cops that they.... Logical Nov 2014 #29

Exactly. Here, the police are usually protecting the protesters. That's what I'd love to see in MO arcane1 Nov 2014 #32

I bet they dont show. Theyve been exposed and will fade away. All 12 of 'em 7962 Nov 2014 #34

Considering how these things usually go, there were never going to be more than 3 of them anyway arcane1 Nov 2014 #37

The very fact that you assume that there will be riots is in itself very racist! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #47

There were no riots when Zimmerman was acquitted. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #87

Prepared for what exactly? In case the negras erupt? Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #145

The KKK has promised to be there and to use "lethal force". (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #146

You honestly think that the police are there to stop the KKK? Laughable! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #147

So should they simply ignore that threat? Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #148

Are you really this naive? The police in Ferguson don't give a damn about black folks Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author Logical Nov 2014 #88

There is a better way, not instant but would require an honest effort on the part of the local PD nc4bo Nov 2014 #59

Really? The Klan have promised to be there and to use "lethal force", Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #20

Really? sheshe2 Nov 2014 #31

Do you think black business owners want the National Guard to be there? (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #55

I suspect the business owners, Black or otherwise, ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #74

Except that the Klan might riot in that case. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #81

Do you really believe the Ferguson PD, MO State Police and the National Guard ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #69

Who else has promised "lethal force"? Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #72

Then, wouldn't the prudent course be ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #76

If I was a black business owner whose store was being destroyed by the Klan Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #79

The PD in Ferguson has already shown how to use lethal force when they took down Michael. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #97

The police in Ferguson already used lethal force... sheshe2 Nov 2014 #170

Why yes mercuryblues Nov 2014 #134

Between the KKK threats, the State of Emergency Declaration, KMOD Nov 2014 #41

Do you have any doubt in your mind Egnever Nov 2014 #60

The OP is absolutely not calling for riots. KMOD Nov 2014 #75

There were no riots when Zimmerman was acquitted. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #82

What the hell! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #128

Exactly KMOD! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #171

A few of the replies in this thread have broken me for the evening... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #63

I know what you mean SceamingMeemie. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #174

Call me crazy... ReRe Nov 2014 #70

According to some in this thread, an enraged KKK is nothing to worry about, Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #73

I don't know what you are talking about... ReRe Nov 2014 #78

Pointing out that some here are downplaying the KKK threat that you allude to. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #85

Exactly thank you for posting this azurnoir Nov 2014 #71

A Couple of Tweets, she.. Cha Nov 2014 #93

I do remember the ATF being called in during the Waco siege (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #94

"White people with guns are not nearly as scary to the establishment as black people with voices." Number23 Nov 2014 #95

"Hell Yes" is AbsoF******Lutely, 23! All the times we've seen the US Police makes nice with White Cha Nov 2014 #99

Religious nutjobs AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #103

Nah, it doesn't disprove my post. Cha Nov 2014 #110

Yeah AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #113

No, it doesn't at all. Cha Nov 2014 #117

Agree to disagree AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #118

You are correct JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #177

You went back 21 years... BklnDem75 Nov 2014 #136

Good point JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #157

But his great great great grandad was 1/3 Indian so he KNOWS racism, man Number23 Nov 2014 #180

Total desperation. Comparing a compound of religious extremists Rex Nov 2014 #189

"White people with guns are not nearly as scary to the establishment as black people with voices" sheshe2 Nov 2014 #116

People need to pissed off sometimes, sheshe. And it is very telling that one way to make Number23 Nov 2014 #181

I have noticed that as well...such quiet. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #182

Here is this too~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #192

Rest in Peace Michael. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #101

Exposed! "2 Florida Police Officers Fired For Being Ku Klux Klan Members [Photos]" At least we have Cha Nov 2014 #121

Yes! Thank you! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #124

Posters on TOD were taking an educated guess that Chief Jackson is. :( Cha Nov 2014 #126

I sure will put my money on a few more! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #130

Yes, I thought you were long gone, she.. Cha Nov 2014 #131

sheshe JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #139

+ 10000000 bettyellen Nov 2014 #153

I pray for a sit in JAG. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #183

I love this thread JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #154

I seem to remember riots in Ferguson a few months ago. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #162

I saw cops teargassing children. bravenak Nov 2014 #166

The Governor failed to mention any black people that he would be protecting. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #175

I don't think he mentioned race at all. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #176

Let them have their racial based fantasies AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #179

And you~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #184

I am not the one AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #185

Michael was shot down in cold blood. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #186

Interesting that you call AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #187

A tale of two suspects - two cities - two states JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #194

you're right, but white america does not agree with you. redruddyred Nov 2014 #190

White grocery shoppers = "white america"? SMC22307 Nov 2014 #213

oh yeah people who eat food are a totally unrepresentative portion of the populace. redruddyred Nov 2014 #215

Looking at some of the replies, it is as if racism doesn't exist in their world. Rex Nov 2014 #191

I would say that you summed that up nicely, Rex. sheshe2 Nov 2014 #204

You are preaching to the choir my friend davidpdx Nov 2014 #193

Take a deep seat and a tight hold. It could be a rough ride ahead. lonestarnot Nov 2014 #197

People are scared so I can see the reason helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #201

It's funny how Obama's biggest fans praise his cool, calm, collected style. SMC22307 Nov 2014 #214