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onenote

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41. 39% D; 35% R; 23% Ind; 3% minor party. Its a turnout problem, not fraud.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:27 PM
Nov 2014

There are a lot of factors as to why Florida, despite having somewhat more registered Democrats than repubs, goes red statewide.

First, the number of registered Ds may be misleading; there are a lot of older voters in Florida that may have started out as registered Democrats but who now lean R but haven't bothered to change their registration (in the Scott-Crist race, exit polls showed a 16 percent margin for Scott with voters 65 and up; those voters made up 25 percent of the voters -- as many as 18-24, 24-29, and 30-39 year old voters combined). Second, turnout: in the Scott-Crist race repubs made up 35 percent of the voters showing up at the polls, while Democrats only turned out 31 percent of the voters. Even the independent vote turnout (33%) topped the Democratic turnout.

As for the state senate, there were 20 seats up for election. Yes, the repubs didn't lose any of their seats. But neither did the Democrats. In all 20 seats, there was no change in party control. Which shouldn't surprise anyone since 15 of the 20 were uncontested.

Finally, turning to the state house, in 69 (57.5%) of the 120 seats up for election, there was only one major party candidate running for election. A total of 28 Democrats and 41 Republicans were guaranteed election barring unforeseen circumstances. In two of the instances where a repub unseated a Democrat, the Democrat had only held the seat for 2 years and had won in 2012 by 1 percent or less. Turnout. Turnout. Turnout. Democrats who did well in 2012 when the Democratic voters made up 35 percent of those voting and repubs only 33 percent, and when voters 18-40 outnumbered voters 65 and older by a 30% - 24% margin, suffered in 2014.

Its an easy out to scream voter fraud. But that simply avoids the real issues: (1) gerrymandering that creates seats that are so safe that over half of the house seats and 75 percent of state senate seats don't even have two major party candidates running.

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Pretty much correct on every point. BillZBubb Nov 2014 #1
Mostly a Question of Money and Media Access AndyTiedye Nov 2014 #4
Yes, it does matter a lot. madfloridian Nov 2014 #8
Exactly. BillZBubb Nov 2014 #16
Sure, the corporate media pushes the republican frame, but... BillZBubb Nov 2014 #18
No Buts About It AndyTiedye Nov 2014 #43
This and horrible (read Repuke lite) messaging hifiguy Nov 2014 #38
I'll Vote On That! ChiciB1 Nov 2014 #37
K&R ReRe Nov 2014 #2
Our party is lame. SoapBox Nov 2014 #3
Our cats are not so efficiently herded by Big Money. Orsino Nov 2014 #44
This is what happens when liberals or Democrats bash ... Democrats. joshcryer Nov 2014 #5
Yep, there you go. It's really all our fault. Right???? madfloridian Nov 2014 #6
I said nothing about testing. joshcryer Nov 2014 #10
Because that has become the entirety of Common Core. madfloridian Nov 2014 #22
The Democrat "brand" sucks. Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #15
Exactly! BillZBubb Nov 2014 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #7
Crist is more of a Democrat at heart than most FL Dem leaders. madfloridian Nov 2014 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #11
Actually yes, we did. We who voted could not overcome those who did not. madfloridian Nov 2014 #12
and that DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #28
A VERY, VERY True Statement! ChiciB1 Nov 2014 #36
Thanks madfl, nice and unfortuantely too correct quaker bill Nov 2014 #13
Just as obvious SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #14
.... 840high Nov 2014 #27
"How? By ceding the middle to Republicans." NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #17
Ridiculous. BillZBubb Nov 2014 #20
"a purely liberal, far-left version of a Democratic party" madfloridian Nov 2014 #21
that's especially off-base in the FL gov's race with Crist being the very definition of "middle" nashville_brook Nov 2014 #24
State Party Leadership Seemed To Be Missing... ChiciB1 Nov 2014 #35
Wow, amazed at number of tweets on this. madfloridian Nov 2014 #23
Democrats let Republicans define them mcar Nov 2014 #25
The numbers make a case for Republican election fraud. JEFF9K Nov 2014 #26
Florida & Fraud Are Two Words That Seem ChiciB1 Nov 2014 #33
If the party wants to win midterms. Notafraidtoo Nov 2014 #29
And that's why I wouldn't mind the state being cut in half. n/t geomon666 Nov 2014 #30
OUR ELECTIONS ARE RIGGED!!! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #31
That was going to be my question. moondust Nov 2014 #42
I've Lived Here For A Long Time... ChiciB1 Nov 2014 #32
What percentage of voters are Democrats? davidn3600 Nov 2014 #34
Romano's article refers very much to the state races also. madfloridian Nov 2014 #40
39% D; 35% R; 23% Ind; 3% minor party. Its a turnout problem, not fraud. onenote Nov 2014 #41
And the independents, at least those who voted, must have swung repuke. KamaAina Nov 2014 #39
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