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40. PROPAGANDA

Wed Nov 19, 2014, 10:09 AM

Nov 2014

Tremendous resources are being poured both into deceptive advertising to get Americans to support our own destruction, *and* into creating the illusion that Americans do support what is being done to us.

Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023512796

Salon: Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024560097

Snowden: ‘Training Guide’ for GCHQ, NSA Agents Infiltrating and Disrupting Alternative Media Online
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/25/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online/

The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3189367

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023262111

The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801

The government figured out sockpuppet management but not "persona management."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023358242

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4159454

Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4249741

Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1208351

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Majority of Americans, Democrats even, support Keystone! Are they just making shit up now? [View all] J_J_ Nov 2014 OP

Yes they are making things up Kalidurga Nov 2014 #1

"NOW" they have been making shit up for years awake Nov 2014 #2

Amen Aerows Nov 2014 #37

I'd be shocked if more than 1 in 100 US citizens even know what the Keystone XL Pipeline is. Marr Nov 2014 #3

^^^THIS^^^ ...They probably think its some weird kind of porn. L0oniX Nov 2014 #27

And 1 out of 100 of those only know it from the PR spin arcane1 Nov 2014 #29

I doubt if 1 in 10K have ever heard of it. walkingman Nov 2014 #31

So your theory is that the media is making up poll numbers? mythology Nov 2014 #4

"The available evidence" is from lying corporate media whores J_J_ Nov 2014 #10

I think it's bullshit shenmue Nov 2014 #5

Lying. Kochs paid a lot of $$$ to purchase the Keystone votes today..They just failed!! Haa misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #6

Koch is affiliated with the competing Enbridge system. Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2014 #39

I hate to be cynical, but ... surrealAmerican Nov 2014 #7

Actually, all the polls I've seen published shows a wide approval. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #8

Sheeple are easy to count. nt BootinUp Nov 2014 #9

Misleading Poll at best. Wellstone ruled Nov 2014 #11

Gerrymandered poll. L0oniX Nov 2014 #26

They assume the pipeline means jobs and low gas prices LeftInTX Nov 2014 #12

Most Americans are ignorant morons who think the pipeline will make gas cheaper. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #13

The oil winds up in the gulf refineries anyway. joshcryer Nov 2014 #15

Why the hell do they need another one, then? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #20

So they can ramp up Bakken production. joshcryer Nov 2014 #32

Is the corporate media also lying when the polls support ideas and positions you like? branford Nov 2014 #14

Most people may be resigned to the basic economics - bhikkhu Nov 2014 #16

Judging from comments I've read in the NY Times' coverage of the vote . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #17

Same ones that believed Saddam attacked us on 911. L0oniX Nov 2014 #24

PROPAGANDA woo me with science Nov 2014 #40

Pew poll julio_maracas Nov 2014 #18

I'm done going by those polls. A stripper poll is more accurate. L0oniX Nov 2014 #23

Pew did a poll in May showing broad support for the pipeline even among Democrats. pampango Nov 2014 #25

Rumors started about all kinds of stuff fadedrose Nov 2014 #19

"if you repeat something often enough, people will believe it." J_J_ Nov 2014 #35

They own the media - TBF Nov 2014 #21

Obviously it is not my government. It's just another loan shark taking my money for wars and shit. L0oniX Nov 2014 #22

Surely you jest thinking corp media and big oil would collude? JaneyVee Nov 2014 #28

As it is with most environmental issues - the messaging sucks. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #30

UNREC brooklynite Nov 2014 #33

REPUTATION? It means nothing if they have no contracts and are bankrupt aspirant Nov 2014 #38

Ah, so venting it is... brooklynite Nov 2014 #41

Venting what? aspirant Nov 2014 #43

I think based on all of the propaganda they probably do. davishenderson265 Nov 2014 #34

What good is a poll if... Oilwellian Nov 2014 #36

I bet it is true Township75 Nov 2014 #42