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13. I used to think Democrats steered clear of people who had formerly lost elections or primaries, but

Thu Nov 20, 2014, 01:52 AM

Nov 2014

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that does not seem to be true anymore. For example, we ran Coakley in Massachusetts for Governor after she lost the special election Senate race to Brown (Kennedy's seat) and, well, there's Hillary, but I don't think her 2008 primary loss will be what hurts her. To the contrary, it might help her.

But, I am not optimistic about O'Malley sadly.* I don't think they will run someone for President who did not win the Governor's race because of the risk of not carrying his or her own state in the general, ala McGovern and Gore (which Hillary might also face, if you consider Arkansas her "own state" instead of NY).

Sweitzer put his foot in his mouth terribly, just about as soon as a number of people started talking about him as a potential Presidential candidate. Until then, I was finding him very appealing and his electability potential also looked good to me. He did apologize soon after, but it's hard to unring the bigotry bell within the Democratic Party.

On edit: *Information in this post about O'Malley is erroneous. Please see Reply 21.

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I agree. elleng Nov 2014 #1

I welcome every Clinton primary challenger to the race. morningfog Nov 2014 #2

Webb could be interesting. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #3

As expected. herding cats Nov 2014 #4

I used to think Democrats steered clear of people who had formerly lost elections or primaries, but merrily Nov 2014 #13

I think you really covered the differences in losses well in your post. herding cats Nov 2014 #14

A US Senate seat or a gubernatorial seat not what I would consider a local loss. merrily Nov 2014 #16

I hope Schweitzer isn't considering just because of a slip of the tongue. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #19

It was a rather relevatory slip of the tongue, not an innocuous one. merrily Nov 2014 #36

To be fair, O'Malley himself did not lose - he was term limited and his Lt. Gov lost the race to Midwestern Democrat Nov 2014 #21

Thanks. I relied on a comment made by another poster, that O''Malley merrily Nov 2014 #40

Neither Webb nor O'Malley lost an election. What are you talking about? FSogol Nov 2014 #32

What are YOU talking about? I never said Webb lost an election. merrily Nov 2014 #34

Angry much? Get more sleep and I hope you have a better day. FSogol Nov 2014 #35

LOL. Who's angry? I almost always do have a great day. I wish you the same. merrily Nov 2014 #38

I'm looking forward to much more from the Castro Bros. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #20

Damaged good? O'Malley didn't lose his election. FSogol Nov 2014 #37

I have reservations, clues to some of which can be found in his wiki. merrily Nov 2014 #5

How was he referencing White Culture? madville Nov 2014 #9

I can't recall the exact words, but I do recall I had a jaw drop reaction when I heard it. merrily Nov 2014 #11

Crickets on my question about your meaning? merrily Nov 2014 #15

What's he going to explore? bluestateguy Nov 2014 #6

Maybe whether he has a shot at being the nominee, finding donors, etc? merrily Nov 2014 #7

Here's a brief discussion of him in the New Yorker last week: Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #8

Thanks for posting that, very interesting pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #17

Donit Skeowes28 Nov 2014 #10

I like Webb as a person, but don't support some of the same thing he does davidpdx Nov 2014 #12

Looking for someone to get excited about during the primaries. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #18

Some on DU will have to try REALLY REALLY hard to like this guy wyldwolf Nov 2014 #22

Because someone has to run to the right of Hillary PDittie Nov 2014 #23

Here's a link to op-ed "Class Struggle" which he sent to WSJ in 11/2006 : Faryn Balyncd Nov 2014 #24

Goodie, another republican! TBF Nov 2014 #25

Thank you! Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #26

Agreed - I like Bernie. TBF Nov 2014 #28

Excluding Bernie, it's like a battle to see who's willing to be bullwinkle428 Nov 2014 #39

I have one bit of advice for Mr. Webb. Vinca Nov 2014 #27

+1 leftofcool Nov 2014 #29

If HRC does not run, Webb is my 2nd choice Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #30

well Robbins Nov 2014 #31

So Hillary will have a challenger from the right. MohRokTah Nov 2014 #33