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Robbins

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15. The truth Is

Thu Nov 20, 2014, 07:43 PM

Nov 2014

There are 3 wings of democratic party

Liberal-real Democrats

moderate-good on some things bad on others

Centrist-DINO's-Democrat in Name Only

Obama Is moderate-good on some things bad on others.I say this as one who supported him In primarys In 2008 and in general In 2008 and 2012.I am liberal.He is moderate

Both Clintons are Centrist

Imagine what FDR would think of Democratic party today.

Even Truman and JFK are ultra Liberals compared to Clintons.

Truman made tough decsions and was right.JFK ran on medicare.Reagan went around and attacked the propsal as Taking away freedom.Yeah JFK cut takes but it affected all americans.Kennedy went against military during cuban missile crisis.Could you imagine Clintons or Obama not rushing to go into cuba as the military wanted.

Kennedy federal national guard is something obama or clinton would never do.In 1960's there were dems who seemed concerned about civil rights.We may have Black president but he would act like JFK did.

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