The words "Democrat" and "Republican" are pretty much meaningless

[Kelvin Mace]

83. Again, didn't say it

Claiming the Democrats are no different from the Republicans

Again, please point to where I claim this.

Here is what I have actually WRITTEN where the word "different/difference" is used:

"Now, if you want to talk about the differences between specific Democrats, like say Al Franken and Kay Hagan, well then certainly, they are as different as night and day, but when you look at the parties as a whole it is Center-Right pro-business versus howling mad right-wing neo-fascists. A socially liberal Democrat doesn't do me much good when they are to the Right of Nixon on the security state, foreign policy and low taxes for the 1% and favor cutting unemployment, Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid."

"There are differences, but no matter which party is elected, the country keeps moving to the right overall."

"I referred to the words/labels "Democrat" and "Republican" as being "meaningless", not the parties. A subtle, nuanced, but VERY distinct difference."

"I make considerable issue about the "differences" between the parties."

"There ARE differences, but on the whole, the country has continued to move to the right, even when snatching the occasional progressive victory (like electing a Black president or overturning anti-gay laws)."

Nope, cannot find any place were I write that there is "no difference" between Democrats and Republicans. Also, please note that my use of the word "different/difference" mostly appears in rebuttals to people claiming I wrote that which I did NOT write.

At least they attack the other side and not their own.

Seriously? The GOP crazies turn on each other all the time. When one of our candidates turns rabid (like say, Andrew Cuomo) some people here are quick to tell folk who point this out to shut up and pull the D lever or get out we don't need you or your stinking vote.

Democrats do win elections.

Yes, they do, mostly by running on liberal policies. And when they pivot and betray those policies after being elected they tend to lose. Ask Kay Hagan. Despite being in a state that is trending blue, she lost because she alienated that base by "reaching across the aisle to my colleagues on the right" and helping them destroy the very policies the people who voted for her believed in.

We need Democrats who give us a reason to vote FOR them, not AGAINST Republicans. one is a winning strategy, the other a cynical death spiral for Democracy.