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NCTraveler

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52. You seem to be avoiding a tax. Wonder why that is.

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 12:04 PM

Nov 2014

Really could be no more clear that the one you forgot is the one I was addressing. Really couldn't have been more clear. I also don't recall at any point saying they pay no taxes. You might want to show me where I did. You seem to have interest in the taxes they pay, yet the ones not being paid that are used to exploit them, you are calling a right wing meme. When businesses are using that exact tax as a reason to exploit them you should want it to stop and talk often about it. Not try to shut down conversation about it with the failed "its a right wing meme" debate tactic.

At the same time you must make the claim that the business all over our country, not paying their fair share of income taxes by exploiting this situation, are good too. This is one of the huge way in which we are currently allowing undocumented immigrants to be exploited. I have a big problem with it.

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Hillary Clinton Statement On President Obama's Executive Action On Immigration [View all] kpete Nov 2014 OP

Strong BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #1

Mushy DallasNE Nov 2014 #71

link pleASE trueblue2007 Nov 2014 #2

thanks for having my back trueblue2007 kpete Nov 2014 #8

Thrilled Hillary supports him! hrmjustin Nov 2014 #3

Me too! Love her so much for her pro-choice, pro-women politics. Heather Kube Nov 2014 #106

Glad she supports it... femmocrat Nov 2014 #4

Isn't that what "agreeing with" and "supporting" is? George II Nov 2014 #25

Where were the words "agree with"? femmocrat Nov 2014 #51

See below.....please, let's not nitpick the words - she SUPPORTS what he did. George II Nov 2014 #54

"but she basically paraphrased what he said, more or less. " NCTraveler Nov 2014 #43

Yes, but... femmocrat Nov 2014 #50

Secretary Kerry has been working non stop in Europe on the Iran negotiations karynnj Nov 2014 #86

Awesome! leftofcool Nov 2014 #5

Keep it up, Hillary. So far, so good. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #6

k&r... spanone Nov 2014 #7

This is a no-brainer. Derp. nt babylonsister Nov 2014 #9

Pablum for the masses. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #24

Ayup. Veilex Nov 2014 #88

Maybe she LynnTTT Nov 2014 #10

Bueno,bueno aspirant Nov 2014 #11

With the exception of Colorado, the Senate seats up for grabs were generally amandabeech Nov 2014 #103

Wow. That took a lot of courage LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #12

Typical? hrmjustin Nov 2014 #13

what is wrong? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #14

So criticism of Hillary is an indicator of "ODS"? beerandjesus Nov 2014 #62

did you read the OP before posting.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #65

Isn't the OP about HRC? deurbano Nov 2014 #75

I read the typical as being....typical of Democrats...this poster is not very "into" Obama.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #77

I think in this case, it makes more sense that he/she is responding about HRC's statement. deurbano Nov 2014 #78

No but it doesn't exclude the other.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #80

Yes, quite obviously. beerandjesus Nov 2014 #87

Unfortunately VR has a severe case of ODS derangement syndrome Dragonfli Nov 2014 #107

Hahahaha, nailed it! beerandjesus Nov 2014 #121

Indeed Veilex Nov 2014 #89

That's called mainstreetonce Nov 2014 #15

HRC has his back nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #16

Clinton/Obama '16 bigwillq Nov 2014 #17

well said. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2014 #18

Way to go Pres. Obama! Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #19

Honest to god... Beausoir Nov 2014 #28

The Onion you say? They hiring? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #38

lol. You win something. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #44

The interweb??? Can I win the interweb today??? :~) Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #48

Just for the Day, tomorrow you have to give it back. bahrbearian Nov 2014 #95

She was dodging questions about it earlier. I guess the polling data came in. Vattel Nov 2014 #20

By "polling data" do you mean the last election... Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #21

I don't think Clinton's heart is in the right place on this issue. I hope I am wrong. Vattel Nov 2014 #22

Deference to the head of the party. She rightly said nothing until POTUS acted. nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #40

Really? Then how do you explain her belittling Obama? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #60

Co-ordinated political remarks. nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #67

What does that mean, saying the President does stupid stuff LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #73

Clinton and Obama agree to help a large part of the electorate Sheepshank Nov 2014 #74

I don't see any "agreement"? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #81

yeah sure whatev...haven't you been banned once? n/t Sheepshank Nov 2014 #84

"Hillary is playing for the 3rd Way interests, not immigrants." Veilex Nov 2014 #90

Dodging? Specifics? George II Nov 2014 #26

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/hillary-clinton-confronta_n_5824096.html Vattel Nov 2014 #27

Total misrepresentation. joshcryer Nov 2014 #32

What was wrong with the question? It was a fair question that she dodged for political reasons. Vattel Nov 2014 #33

No, it wasn't a "fair" question. joshcryer Nov 2014 #34

With all due respect, you don't know what you are talking about. Vattel Nov 2014 #39

Oh, the "wait until the elections" thing. joshcryer Nov 2014 #108

Easy to pick out one informal incident.....how about this? George II Nov 2014 #36

Here's a specific --- H. Clinton gave her integrity to Georgie Bush in 2002. Why would we ever rhett o rick Nov 2014 #30

Did you vote for John Kerry in 2004? brooklynite Nov 2014 #31

Ah yes, the questions of insinuation. The technique used when one doesn't rhett o rick Nov 2014 #42

Yeah, that was REALLLL "specific"!! George II Nov 2014 #37

I am glad we agree. We have better choices than those that betrayed us. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #45

More vagueness George II Nov 2014 #55

Vague? How so? H. Clinton, as well as a number of other so-called Democrats, counldn't rhett o rick Nov 2014 #72

You mean like " Warren 2016" ....when exactly will you take that down? pkdu Nov 2014 #82

So are you agreeing that there are candidates available with integrity so we rhett o rick Nov 2014 #98

I'll ignore the "integrity" bait and agree , yes - any candidate , right up until the nomination pkdu Nov 2014 #119

Why can't we talk about integrity? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #120

Yes, vague, until this post you did not say one specific thing she did to "betray us".. George II Nov 2014 #92

I will be glad to tell you. I don't for a second believe that HRC was "misled". rhett o rick Nov 2014 #99

well done. nt navarth Nov 2014 #101

Here's somthing specific... Veilex Nov 2014 #93

Are you sure that when (and IF) Warren starts running for President she won't take money... George II Nov 2014 #97

I am saying that HRC has no integrity and shouldn't be our candidate. What does how I feel rhett o rick Nov 2014 #100

. stonecutter357 Nov 2014 #111

The caption under your picture of HRC laughing her head off should read, "LOL, they bought the bs rhett o rick Nov 2014 #116

Well, apparently Clinton abandoned her integrity because she took campaign donations..... George II Nov 2014 #113

I am saying she abandoned her integrity when she choose to abandon the American people and rhett o rick Nov 2014 #114

. stonecutter357 Nov 2014 #110

I am not surprised that you have nothing to add. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #117

nothing to add. stonecutter357 Nov 2014 #118

Why should she respond to Obama's action before he takes the action? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #104

K & R SunSeeker Nov 2014 #23

Good statement. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #29

Um, Hillary, quit supporting the Republican memes. These folks are already paying taxes. Scuba Nov 2014 #35

It is not a Republican meme in any way. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #46

Sales, taxes, gas taxes. Scuba Nov 2014 #49

You seem to be avoiding a tax. Wonder why that is. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #52

Quit trying to put words in my mouth. These folks pay taxes, period. Saying they don't is a lie. Scuba Nov 2014 #53

I put not one word in your mouth. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #56

Not all pay income taxes. If you think there are no undocumented workers Darb Nov 2014 #68

I never made that claim. But Hillary's statement can easily be interpreted to mean ... Scuba Nov 2014 #85

"At the same time you must make the claim ..." Scuba Nov 2014 #57

Correct. I am assuming you attempt to go through life with intellectual consistency. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #58

then obama should also stop supporting it. i heard him yesterday La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2014 #69

she said all the right things - n/t RussBLib Nov 2014 #41

I like it. I am glad she came out and publicly supported the Executive Order. Pisces Nov 2014 #47

Sometimes the right and politically expedient thing to do intersect. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #59

The broken clock, and blind squirrel meme is no cause to praise Hillary ;~/ Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #63

Praising people for doing the right thing helps to ensure they do the right thing in the future. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #64

Sure does. It's called positive reinforcement. DFW Nov 2014 #66

" it works on humans AFTER they're 2 years old, too--on some even when they run for president." Veilex Nov 2014 #94

K&R McCamy Taylor Nov 2014 #61

Thank you, secretary Clinton! n/t ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #70

If anyone would like facts and not memes about Hillary Clinton's stance in immigration reform OKNancy Nov 2014 #76

I am with her on this issue. jwirr Nov 2014 #79

It should be that SHE is WITH us ;~/ Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #83

Of course but at least this time she seems to know what to say. jwirr Nov 2014 #91

she has been. Look at her past speeches and votes OKNancy Nov 2014 #96

Better late than never... kentuck Nov 2014 #102

Remind me of when Obama made his statement, was it yesterday? Yes if she had Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #105

she has been pro-reform for many years OKNancy Nov 2014 #109

K&R stonecutter357 Nov 2014 #112

Good. freshwest Nov 2014 #115