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JoePhilly

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54. So I hear you ... but ...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:54 PM
Apr 2012

There is a contradiction in the position they seem to take .... from your post ....

1) "I have family members who very much believe that God is constantly fiddling with everything around us and that the Devil is constantly trying to get us to do bad things"

2) "what they are asking for when they ask for it "if it's God's will" is to grant their request if God doesn't have specific other plans."

These two statement are at odds.

God can't be "fiddling with everything around us" but then also not "have specific other plans."

I do understand that they may find it comforting to separate the 2, but it doesn't make sense.

After all, God is all powerful ... and so if God "fiddles with everything", then he's got to be doing so for a reason ... and the reason, has to relate to his other, or larger plans.

If not, then his "fiddling" is not purposeful. God becomes a kid with an Ant farm. The kid's larger plan was to set up the farm, and having done so, the kid "fiddles" with the Ant farm for fun. The kid's larger plan is to "not destroy the Ant farm" ... and so the kid can "fiddle" with it, but only to the extent that doing so does not destroy it.

But if this is the situation, God is not very interested in us. He's "fiddling" with us.

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Quandary over a Facebook posting.... [View all] MountainMama Apr 2012 OP
I would unfriend her. You could always just hide the post so you don't see it livetohike Apr 2012 #1
To each his own nykym Apr 2012 #2
Another vote for leave it alone matt819 Apr 2012 #11
Tell her not to bother. ceile Apr 2012 #3
I agree, but I always try to be respectful of all people's beliefs. cpamomfromtexas Apr 2012 #4
You know.. MountainMama Apr 2012 #8
Great man your dad! cpamomfromtexas Apr 2012 #48
Tell her you will keep her posting in your thoughts. nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #5
Thats a good snarky one. :) nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #36
Just reply "Thank you." Leave it at that. You know what she's like, so don't let it gateley Apr 2012 #6
Bless her heart.. n/t Fumesucker Apr 2012 #7
hmm... i'd say praying is about as useless as sitting in front of a rock ejpoeta Apr 2012 #9
Say this ... "Given your response, please disregard my initial request. Last thing I wanted ... JoePhilly Apr 2012 #10
Hee hee... MountainMama Apr 2012 #13
Sounds similar to me ... JoePhilly Apr 2012 #15
A little insight SATIRical Apr 2012 #19
So I hear you ... but ... JoePhilly Apr 2012 #54
I agree SATIRical Apr 2012 #55
I think this is a good idea. I would do this and then unfriend her, saying that we have CTyankee Apr 2012 #23
I like that response LibertyLover Apr 2012 #52
I do love that backhanded "Bless Your Heart" comment. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #53
i would rant, then unfriend............but mrmpa Apr 2012 #12
Unfriend abelenkpe Apr 2012 #14
Meh. I would just ignore it. I would be annoyed but its not really fighting over or unfriending BoWanZi Apr 2012 #16
I'd tend to unfriend gratuitous Apr 2012 #17
Sidenote: I think it's hilarious she knows "thoughts" are worthless but prayers are all-powerful. Arugula Latte Apr 2012 #18
I would say warrior1 Apr 2012 #20
I take the easy way out.... Fastcars Apr 2012 #21
at least the rock is tangible.. frylock Apr 2012 #22
response: "I wasn't expecting thoughts from you... rucky Apr 2012 #24
Honestly? As a both a Christian and a smart ass, I would tell her that I have asked some Christian Butterbean Apr 2012 #25
Thank you. MountainMama Apr 2012 #26
I would be scared to have someone like PatSeg Apr 2012 #27
Exactly - KT2000 Apr 2012 #31
And they use the bible PatSeg Apr 2012 #33
I would post "I am ALWAYS thankful for all peoples' prayers, thoughts, and vibes for my B-I-L." Lex Apr 2012 #28
Fuck her, she's a soulless piece of shit. Taverner Apr 2012 #29
Why would you post something like that? Union Scribe Apr 2012 #46
Grace - she doesn't have it KT2000 Apr 2012 #30
Reality check: It's Facebook. You're asking for help about a rude Facebook post. Edweird Apr 2012 #32
Post this quote on her thread Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #34
A few more good quotes about being self-righteous Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #35
Let it go tilsammans Apr 2012 #37
I think you are right Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #38
Thank you both.... MountainMama Apr 2012 #43
I think your life will be more peaceful now Union Scribe Apr 2012 #47
I say "unfriend" ASAP Tsiyu Apr 2012 #39
No offense, but could you please correct your headline RZM Apr 2012 #40
Oh, crap! MountainMama Apr 2012 #41
I'm pretty sure you still can RZM Apr 2012 #42
Fixed MountainMama Apr 2012 #44
you could respond like so: barbtries Apr 2012 #45
Reply, "When I asked for prayers, I meant in the Matthew 6:5 - 6:7 sense" Then Unfriend stevenleser Apr 2012 #49
perfect reply crazylikafox Apr 2012 #50
Good reason to use church for this sort of thing rather than FB. yellowcanine Apr 2012 #51
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