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SidDithers

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9. The Salvation Army opposed marriage equality in Canada...

Reply to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:33 AM

Nov 2014

testifying before a Parliamentary Committee that:

The Salvation Army's belief about marriage is that it ought to be a covenanting together of one man and one woman for life in a voluntary union characterized by faithfulness, mutual affection, respect, and support.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=839046&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=37&Ses=2#Int-508667

Despite the fact that same-sex marriage has been legal in some Canadian provinces since 2003, and nationally since 2005, The Salvation Army will not perform marriage ceremonies for same-sex couples in Canada.

That is their right. And it's my right to not give them a fucking penny.

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Friendly reminder to ignore Salvation Army bell ringers this year.... [View all] Playinghardball Nov 2014 OP

From the Wikipedia page about the Salvation Army: Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #1

". . . allows it to inquire into people's religious beliefs in its hiring practices. " Le Taz Hot Nov 2014 #4

I don't donate to any corporate charities anymore arikara Nov 2014 #34

the only thing I give the red cross is blood. littlewolf Nov 2014 #54

The Salvation Army's CEO gets paid very little actually, but Heather Kube Nov 2014 #59

A good run-down on charity CEO salaries, for those interested: bhikkhu Nov 2014 #71

Maybe the ceo wages are reasonable at sally ann arikara Nov 2014 #72

I'm with you. hamsterjill Nov 2014 #125

Always donate local Drale Nov 2014 #126

Agreed, however don't use the Salvation Army as an excuse not to help. FSogol Nov 2014 #2

Your foodbank also needs food tabbycat31 Nov 2014 #67

The closest Feeding America food bank is over 30 miles away. PADemD Nov 2014 #81

Many local food banks aren't part of the Feeding America network pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #100

Didn't I say to give locally? The link was just a suggestion for folks that aren't FSogol Nov 2014 #106

Makes me laugh they hire bell ringers... Historic NY Nov 2014 #3

I volunteered a few years back. Octafish Nov 2014 #83

I've got nothing against them just seems like paying money to raise money is... Historic NY Nov 2014 #85

The people from my newspaper volunteered for two-hour shifts... Octafish Nov 2014 #107

Those bellringers that I have spoken to needed the money. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #114

Perhaps true, which saddens me- packman Nov 2014 #5

I remember my grandma saying that... freebrew Nov 2014 #11

I have never dealt with the Salvation Army Worried senior Nov 2014 #15

My father in hospital end of WWll in Germany douggg Nov 2014 #18

I've read numerous articles about the Red Cross blackcrowflies Nov 2014 #29

my FIL in WWII was part of D-Day landing rurallib Nov 2014 #32

My dad had a bad RC experience The Wizard Nov 2014 #64

Planet Money did a story about this SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2014 #76

well okay grinch but I won't PatrynXX Nov 2014 #6

If they lobbied to overturn the civil rights act of 1964 would you feel the same way? dsc Nov 2014 #8

I find it sick you want to support a anti-gay organization. Disgusting.... Logical Nov 2014 #68

BS nt cwydro Nov 2014 #96

Is that still true in every chapter? ctaylors6 Nov 2014 #7

The Salvation Army opposed marriage equality in Canada... SidDithers Nov 2014 #9

When I was a draftee during the Vietnam War QuestionAlways Nov 2014 #10

I always donate to them and will 840high Nov 2014 #24

It's shameful to be supporting them. phil89 Nov 2014 #30

Which do you recommend? WinkyDink Nov 2014 #57

Does their LGBT poilcy bother you? HERVEPA Nov 2014 #31

Yes, but the good work they do is much more important QuestionAlways Nov 2014 #38

So did Presdient Obama's in 2008. Did you vote for him? nt kelly1mm Nov 2014 #116

Salvation Army virulently anti-gay HERVEPA Nov 2014 #117

If you say so ...... somewhat like a kinder, gentler bigot? nt kelly1mm Nov 2014 #118

Sorry, logic failure in your comparison. HERVEPA Nov 2014 #119

Whatever lets you sleep at night .... nt kelly1mm Nov 2014 #122

Yes. cwydro Nov 2014 #47

I ran into a bell-ringer November 12th; LWolf Nov 2014 #12

Nordstrom mimi85 Nov 2014 #13

Some of the stores around here Mariana Nov 2014 #20

Looking for an alternate charity? eggplant Nov 2014 #14

Dang you! Daemonaquila Nov 2014 #44

I really like their purpose eggplant Nov 2014 #46

Fortunately, humans are animals. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #92

I have three friends, all gay, cwydro Nov 2014 #16

As I said downthread.... AngryOldDem Nov 2014 #104

Thank you for posting this - I was thinking the same Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #105

During the depths of the Reagan Great Recession of 1982-3 (when the KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #17

I can vouch for the KC SA helping anyone in need, no questions, no sermons REP Nov 2014 #39

"The help they give is real." cwydro Nov 2014 #48

There are other religious organizations who have similar positions on GBLT and reproductive rights REP Nov 2014 #50

The damage they do is real, too. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #93

Please link to some "damage" cwydro Nov 2014 #97

Ok, did you just not read the OP, or do you dispute it? AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #111

You can be selective if you want to. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #19

I understand your position if they're the only providers of food in town... Moonwalk Nov 2014 #66

I don't donate to SA nor purchase from them since learning they force the needy to pray to their DesertDiamond Nov 2014 #21

That's not true. cwydro Nov 2014 #40

You got some wrong info here. 840high Nov 2014 #51

Or you do quakerboy Nov 2014 #78

When they offer help 840high Nov 2014 #80

No. They don't. AngryOldDem Nov 2014 #103

The SA does a *lot* of good War Horse Nov 2014 #22

I'm a ringer next Sunday, hope to raise a lot CAG Nov 2014 #23

Does their LGBT poilcy bother you? HERVEPA Nov 2014 #33

They hire gay folks. cwydro Nov 2014 #41

+100 CAG Nov 2014 #43

Most of the bell ringers I see seem to have an emotional or a physical disability graywarrior Nov 2014 #25

I never give them a dime! Their anti-gay policy is why. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #26

This is an organization that I find loathsome. I recall years ago they returned a donation WestSeattle2 Nov 2014 #27

If you have the stomach for it you can put these vouchers in their kettles: Arugula Latte Nov 2014 #28

Really? Shemp Howard Nov 2014 #82

I wouldn't say anything to the bellringer. Arugula Latte Nov 2014 #115

I am ambivalent. PDJane Nov 2014 #35

They do nothing that other orgs don't also do, often better. Daemonaquila Nov 2014 #49

When our daughters were very young SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #36

I carry one dollar bills cwydro Nov 2014 #45

Our Agnes hasn't donated to them for more than 50 years. PDJane Nov 2014 #60

Thyere posted in front of Publix darkangel218 Nov 2014 #37

As far as I can see, the ones saying "screw them" aren't being any shraby Nov 2014 #42

Thank you. I don't give to Red 840high Nov 2014 #53

Give to food banks demigoddess Nov 2014 #58

You obviously have trouble finding charities that are good and not anti-gay. nt Logical Nov 2014 #69

I have one criteria. How much do the officers of the charity make? shraby Nov 2014 #86

If a officer can raise 2 million and is paid 100,000 I have no problem with it. nt Logical Nov 2014 #108

Or much more likely, JoeyT Nov 2014 #99

I haven't given them a dime in over 30 years so arthritisR_US Nov 2014 #52

I'd rather give to an organization that helps LGBT homeless youth, this year I'm recommending Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #55

Then donate to your local ministerial alliance, or 'community chest', but give. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #56

Don't ignore them. Tell them why you won't contribute. Then walk away. L0oniX Nov 2014 #61

Leave the bellringers alone. Shemp Howard Nov 2014 #84

I need to learn more. The SA bellringers themselves earn a little money that they need. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #62

The Salvation Army IS the food bank in our small town. PADemD Nov 2014 #63

I used to give a fiver, because their drug program saved a friend of mine's life. Iggo Nov 2014 #65

That is just stupid. cwydro Nov 2014 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Nov 2014 #109

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Done bhikkhu Nov 2014 #70

lol... SummerSnow Nov 2014 #73

I just say NJCher Nov 2014 #74

Thanks, but I make my own decisions on which charities I support. badtoworse Nov 2014 #75

+1 SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #77

+1 WhiteAndNerdy Nov 2014 #98

I didn't know that! Stellar Nov 2014 #79

The Salvation Army is a rightwing church. Tax free, too, of course. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #87

Can't the same thing be said about some of our popular churches? rhett o rick Nov 2014 #112

I'm mixed on the issue. I don't like the way they rope people into their organisation mackerel Nov 2014 #88

I had put $ in the red kettle every time I passed one for decades Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #89

I found other charities- mostly food banks and homeless shelters, Planned Parenthood, and a bettyellen Nov 2014 #120

My dad hated Red Cross because of WWII and the way he was treated as a front line Vet Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #121

I do not like how they interfered with those people helping each other during Katrina- bettyellen Nov 2014 #124

I stayed in one of their caravan parks once shaayecanaan Nov 2014 #90

Friendly reminder not to tell me what to do. WillowTree Nov 2014 #91

Every year, this sucks for me. AngryOldDem Nov 2014 #94

Giving to bell ringers is two things indivisibleman Nov 2014 #101

Well, I will continue to give to the Salvation Army because of the good they do with the money Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #102

Thanks. I ignore them every year; will do so this one, too. closeupready Nov 2014 #113

I get angry when I see them using kids and disabled adults as bell-ringers. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #123

Wow! Ink Man Nov 2014 #127

This thread is pitting groups against each other. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #128