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Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
87. No.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:19 AM
Nov 2014

There are more things than cancer that cause chronic pain on a daily basis. People should be allowed relief from the pain. Why the FDA and all these other groups are slowly banning pain medications is a mystery to me. I don't get it. So many people in so much pain and they are banning stuff left and right.

My aunt has been in misery since they banned her Darvocet. So, they put her on Tramadol. Just a couple weeks ago, they made her go sign a bunch of forms promising to get tested and all sorts of other stipulations on being prescribed the same medicine she has already been on for a year or two now. The thing is, even though she has followed all of their new rules, they still have not refilled her prescription. She's weening off of it and in horrible pain right now because they are dragging their feet on refilling the prescription. It is all she can do. I wish the VA would hurry up and catch up and refill it for her.

She's in agony and there isn't much I can do to help. Without the pain medicine, it sounds like I'm torturing her in here, even though I have no clue what to do to help. I wish I knew a few drug dealers. I'd resort to that at this point, simply because so many groups are pushing to take away all the pain medicines that work on chronic pain.

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Absolutely not. greatlaurel Nov 2014 #1
Thank you for reply UglyGreed Nov 2014 #18
I agree, absolutely. DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #42
My wife has had a severe pain at the base of her skull for 79+ years caused by polio in the brain indepat Nov 2014 #63
That is so suck-y. truedelphi Nov 2014 #207
My wife had taken bleeder pain pills until she nearly bled to death about twenty years ago, then indepat Nov 2014 #211
agreed 100%. medical treatment should not be a political decision. nt magical thyme Nov 2014 #117
If you read the article, you see that they're rubberstamping the CDC guidelines Warpy Nov 2014 #178
No I would not ban it for non cancer reasons yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #2
I included that info UglyGreed Nov 2014 #12
There is a critical distinction between experiencing euphoria as a side effect loyalsister Nov 2014 #75
If a doctor ever said that to me, I'd be hard pressed to keep my temper. Liberal Veteran Nov 2014 #79
Me too! loyalsister Nov 2014 #80
They tried that addiction crap with my mom. easychoice Nov 2014 #96
You're right, loyalsister. I've never really experienced the "drug high" folks talk about. catbyte Nov 2014 #157
Big difference between addiction and dependence. reflection Nov 2014 #166
Considering most insurance has a specialist copay that's higher than normal.... moriah Nov 2014 #16
Great points UglyGreed Nov 2014 #34
I don't take pain medicine except very rarely Mojorabbit Nov 2014 #93
You are obviously not someone in chronic pain with limited resourced. Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #200
No (nt) bigwillq Nov 2014 #3
Why would you single out cancer? Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #4
many doctors/people feel that end of life UglyGreed Nov 2014 #5
Those kind of doctors are either paranoid of the DEA or lacking in empathy. Liberal Veteran Nov 2014 #15
AAN Warns Against Opioids in Chronic Noncancer Pain UglyGreed Nov 2014 #38
Even then you see doctors now afraid to prescribe necessary pain meds... DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #47
Not post surgical patients? I doubt that many surgeons feel that way. n/t pnwmom Nov 2014 #74
Well when I had two surgeries UglyGreed Nov 2014 #103
absolutely not. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #6
Goodness no. That would lead to completely avoidable suffering Takket Nov 2014 #7
Absolutely not. Liberal Veteran Nov 2014 #8
As a six time kidney stone patient, fuck no. longship Nov 2014 #9
Does Toradol do you any good? moriah Nov 2014 #11
Never tried it. My last kidney stone attack was summer, 2013. longship Nov 2014 #19
here ya go UglyGreed Nov 2014 #44
Toradol is great, but limited to less than 5 days use due to high risk of GI bleeding. Liberal Veteran Nov 2014 #24
Fortunately kidney stones are usually an acute situation. moriah Nov 2014 #26
Yeah, my experience with toradol was a little over a month ago (kidney stones). Liberal Veteran Nov 2014 #31
To me it was more like being repeatedly stabbed in the kidney with a dull steak knife.. EX500rider Nov 2014 #58
Oral toradol is a very new thing. DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #43
Most people I know are heading to the ER in a kidney stone attack. moriah Nov 2014 #78
Just curious, is Toradol an NSAID? catbyte Nov 2014 #86
Yes, a very strong one. Thus the stomach shreadding side effect. DeadLetterOffice Nov 2014 #112
Bummer. I heard it was good for migraines, but I developed an anaphylactic catbyte Nov 2014 #156
Something you might want to check out: blue neen Nov 2014 #205
I've never heard of that. Thanks so much! I'll discuss it with my doctor. catbyte Nov 2014 #212
It's great at making new business for dialysis clinics. nt LeftyMom Nov 2014 #56
u said it MFM008 Nov 2014 #100
Of course not. Your decision to go off of painkillers is one thing. moriah Nov 2014 #10
I said no in my OP UglyGreed Nov 2014 #13
My doctor was using the pain medication UglyGreed Nov 2014 #14
Most people are just like you when they've taken opiates. Mariana Nov 2014 #17
I did worry UglyGreed Nov 2014 #25
Fortunately, opiate withdrawal Mariana Nov 2014 #46
Well my pain is disturbing my UglyGreed Nov 2014 #104
I'm in the same boat with you here... Ghost in the Machine Nov 2014 #151
Thank you for your reply UglyGreed Nov 2014 #174
This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Nov 2014 #72
Great sentence in your post, and worth repeating: truedelphi Nov 2014 #208
hell no. two words...kidney stones. spanone Nov 2014 #20
Yup! See my posts up thread. longship Nov 2014 #52
exactly. spanone Nov 2014 #61
Wow gollygee Nov 2014 #21
That happens with my UglyGreed Nov 2014 #27
They should be legal for anyone. nt bemildred Nov 2014 #22
They don't really work for me Aerows Nov 2014 #23
I've known too many Seniors get addicted in Florida HockeyMom Nov 2014 #28
So you are for oulawing them for UglyGreed Nov 2014 #30
You know, pecwae Nov 2014 #109
exactly MFM008 Nov 2014 #171
I'm so glad that UglyGreed Nov 2014 #29
fuck no Kali Nov 2014 #32
I changed over from percocet UglyGreed Nov 2014 #35
I've always wondered how many fatal "overdoses" Mariana Nov 2014 #50
I believe the overdoses might be UglyGreed Nov 2014 #105
whether it should be legal or not, drawing the line based on having cancer or not makes no sense. unblock Nov 2014 #33
Huh? So if you have major surgery or are in a car accident, you should not be able to madinmaryland Nov 2014 #36
Please reread my OP and my posts UglyGreed Nov 2014 #39
BTW if you are in a hospital UglyGreed Nov 2014 #41
This is actually correct in some ways Texasgal Nov 2014 #66
Samething happened to my wife, except... madinmaryland Nov 2014 #68
Thank you for reply UglyGreed Nov 2014 #106
Why? ecstatic Nov 2014 #140
Because ERS Texasgal Nov 2014 #162
No, I don't. MoonRiver Nov 2014 #37
Other diseases like Shingles are unbearably painful Wella Nov 2014 #40
My husband didn't even take Tylenol for his Shingles HockeyMom Nov 2014 #116
Your husband was lucky and had a mild case; I know several cases in which the Wella Nov 2014 #198
Guess his Aunt was very lucky too HockeyMom Nov 2014 #199
Yes she was. I've known 3 very bad cases in my own circle Wella Nov 2014 #201
My husband and his Aunt are the only people HockeyMom Nov 2014 #202
Did you read the medical information I posted? Wella Nov 2014 #203
I don't think anyone who is not your Dr should tell you what you can and cannot take or do NightWatcher Nov 2014 #45
My doctor was the one who told us UglyGreed Nov 2014 #48
Been there. My Dr's answer to my pain is to throw more muscle relaxers at me NightWatcher Nov 2014 #49
I know I've seen your UglyGreed Nov 2014 #51
It should be a human right to not feel pain from a disease or any pain causing medical condition. L0oniX Nov 2014 #53
From your lips/finger tips UglyGreed Nov 2014 #54
No - but I do think there should be caution for long term use csziggy Nov 2014 #55
No drug should be outlawed Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #57
I think people should mind their own business. What the DR and the Patient decide should be the onl demtenjeep Nov 2014 #59
No Way! southern_belle Nov 2014 #60
no way williesgirl Nov 2014 #62
No way! Nt riderinthestorm Nov 2014 #64
No, of course not. Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #65
I had a horrible tooth infection that lasted for a week & used oxycodone for pain relief. U4ikLefty Nov 2014 #67
Dentist receptionist chased me to my car HockeyMom Nov 2014 #113
Anthony Bourdain, Episode 7, Parts Unknown on CNN locks Nov 2014 #69
Why? malokvale77 Nov 2014 #70
Hell no! loyalsister Nov 2014 #71
The US uses more opioids than the rest of the world put together Recursion Nov 2014 #73
But should we allow people to UglyGreed Nov 2014 #107
Perhaps our constant state of war adds to the number of people using pain medication. UglyGreed Nov 2014 #183
Could well be. My Legion post does a lot of work with returning vets Recursion Nov 2014 #185
Don't get me wrong if these men UglyGreed Nov 2014 #196
No. I saw hubby suffer too much pain his last illness madfloridian Nov 2014 #76
Sorry to hear about your UglyGreed Nov 2014 #108
As somebody who is about to undergo major grade knee surgery, no mythology Nov 2014 #77
Of course not Spirochete Nov 2014 #81
No. End the war on drugs. nt ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #82
Not just no but FUCK NO! Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #83
Are you kidding? catbyte Nov 2014 #84
I hear you UglyGreed Nov 2014 #110
Anyone wanting it outlawed have probably never suffered from incurable ongoing severe RKP5637 Nov 2014 #85
Exactly. n/t truedelphi Nov 2014 #206
No. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #87
Absolultely not KMOD Nov 2014 #88
I think government should stay out of medicine. WhiteAndNerdy Nov 2014 #89
No Marrah_G Nov 2014 #90
No. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #91
there's all kinds of pain. mine DesertFlower Nov 2014 #92
you've got to be kidding. screw the nanny-state. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2014 #94
No LeftishBrit Nov 2014 #95
No. cali Nov 2014 #97
NEED the option MFM008 Nov 2014 #98
I think we should help people in pain get relief from their pain, whatever works for them. eShirl Nov 2014 #99
No JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #101
NO CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #102
No, there is nothing unique about cancer pain that would indicate this Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #111
Your thread title is a strawman - they are not talking about 'outlawing' them muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #114
So sue me N/T UglyGreed Nov 2014 #115
In #107, you said "the non-opiates ones caused me more harm than good" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #122
No since I don't think any medication that UglyGreed Nov 2014 #128
There's a war on pain meds because of the deaths and addictions adigal Nov 2014 #132
So I should suffer UglyGreed Nov 2014 #142
There are other drugs when used in combination are just as effective adigal Nov 2014 #150
I've tried eleven other medications UglyGreed Nov 2014 #175
Spoken like someone who has never suffered from chronic pain kcr Nov 2014 #177
Plus my OP was a question for DUers not a UglyGreed Nov 2014 #118
That's a strawman, then muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #119
This message was self-deleted by its author UglyGreed Nov 2014 #130
When doctors refuse to prescribe UglyGreed Nov 2014 #131
+1 Go Vols Nov 2014 #159
Absolutely. Vinca Nov 2014 #120
Not just no, but HELL NO (n/t) Seeking Serenity Nov 2014 #121
Of course not. Iggo Nov 2014 #123
God no. I just had major surgery in Serbia (which only uses opoid medication while the patient is MillennialDem Nov 2014 #124
I'm more worried about the TBF Nov 2014 #125
You might want to distinguish between long term and post-operative and other short term use. merrily Nov 2014 #126
Ok I will edit my post UglyGreed Nov 2014 #133
Unqualified "No." Feral Child Nov 2014 #127
Yes. I have had three family members get addicted adigal Nov 2014 #129
Double-whammy with Lortab: the acetominophen Ilsa Nov 2014 #135
Candy really??? UglyGreed Nov 2014 #137
This is my opinion, which we were asked for adigal Nov 2014 #149
And I gave you mine UglyGreed Nov 2014 #180
Have yet to ever pecwae Nov 2014 #154
My sister-in-law was prescribed a powerful opiate for ten years adigal Nov 2014 #160
Pain is not always temporary. pecwae Nov 2014 #168
The addiction rate for people without previous addictive traits is less than 3% Xithras Nov 2014 #163
No, but doctors need to prescribe them to be taken over Ilsa Nov 2014 #134
I've been in pain UglyGreed Nov 2014 #141
There will always need to be exceptions. Ilsa Nov 2014 #155
unless Du'ers have degrees in pain management, their opinions are really going to be unnecessary La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2014 #136
What about my opinion UglyGreed Nov 2014 #138
its not about respect. my comment was said because most people have idiosyncratic opinions La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2014 #146
I understand UglyGreed Nov 2014 #148
no, i get it. this is what i mean, this conversation for those of us not in pain or those of us who La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2014 #152
People long to be accepted UglyGreed Nov 2014 #176
No, people in pain should have all medical options to stop pain. However, the Pharm. Corps Sunlei Nov 2014 #139
I imagine long term pain could lead to depression or worse ecstatic Nov 2014 #143
Can you agree that we all don't have the same threshold for pain? HockeyMom Nov 2014 #144
I was once like you. Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2014 #165
I walked around for days with that ruptured ectopic HockeyMom Nov 2014 #170
I agree with you. It's true, IMO. HOwever, every time this subject comes up on DU I have found so CTyankee Nov 2014 #173
This is such a slippery slope. First and paramount - pain is subjective and cannot be quantitated. Avalux Nov 2014 #145
No. Aristus Nov 2014 #147
No one should suffer fredamae Nov 2014 #153
Why would anyone want to sentence anyone else to constant pain? djean111 Nov 2014 #158
Apparently, because a chance for pecwae Nov 2014 #169
Suicide rate too low or something? One_Life_To_Give Nov 2014 #161
NO... abakan Nov 2014 #164
For fuck's sake no. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #167
Don't force ANY Health Care on somebody else HockeyMom Nov 2014 #172
No, absolutely not. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #179
I want to thank those UglyGreed Nov 2014 #181
BTW, I do agree with one recommendation here LeftishBrit Nov 2014 #182
Whistleblowers say military doctors and VA have overprescribed powerful narcotics UglyGreed Nov 2014 #184
Lewiston man pleads guilty in UPS medication theft case UglyGreed Nov 2014 #187
Not in my experience pecwae Nov 2014 #189
Well when these pain medications are shipped and they can be UglyGreed Nov 2014 #192
Pain meds I receive pecwae Nov 2014 #194
They can and do get stolen by UPS employees N/T UglyGreed Nov 2014 #195
Pharmacies get robbed. ret5hd Nov 2014 #209
You know what I have an idea. UglyGreed Nov 2014 #193
I think when people are referring to a candy store they mostly are talking about how easy it seaglass Nov 2014 #190
all I know is that when I started going to UglyGreed Nov 2014 #197
No. I let my pain killers sit half empty after a pancreatic Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #186
The hardest part is that UglyGreed Nov 2014 #188
This is true. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #191
No - but we need team based treatment for chronic pain - hedgehog Nov 2014 #204
Having undergone gallbladder surgery a week and a half ago... 99Forever Nov 2014 #210
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