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In reply to the discussion: Do you think opiate pain medications should be outlawed for noncancer sufferers as in chronic pain? [View all]Ilsa
(64,536 posts)155. There will always need to be exceptions.
And it sounds like your case is one of them. But until recently, doctors have been writing scripts for them like they were placebos. Doctors need to be watchful and refer patients to neurologists or other specialists who can help with chronic pain.
A dental surgeon wrote one for me for a special root canal where most of the nerves were dead. He wrote it for 40 tabs! I used the meds for less than 2 days and threw away the remainder.
I have a relative that has dropped out of court-mandated rehab and has lost her kids over opiate abuse. At one point, the 5'7" woman dropped to 84 pounds and had fluid imbalances, skin splitting open on her legs, and they wondered if she was close to liver failure.
And I do feel for you. I'm sorry you are suffering. It's the abusers that are making it more difficult for you and everyone else to get easier care. In Texas, Advanced Nurse Practitioners and Physician Assistants can no longer write scripts for those opiates unless they are employed at a hospital or hospice. There are also no refills and no call-in or electronic orders for them (at least in some states), meaning the patient has to make another trip to the dr for a physical script.
I hope for the best for you.
A dental surgeon wrote one for me for a special root canal where most of the nerves were dead. He wrote it for 40 tabs! I used the meds for less than 2 days and threw away the remainder.
I have a relative that has dropped out of court-mandated rehab and has lost her kids over opiate abuse. At one point, the 5'7" woman dropped to 84 pounds and had fluid imbalances, skin splitting open on her legs, and they wondered if she was close to liver failure.
And I do feel for you. I'm sorry you are suffering. It's the abusers that are making it more difficult for you and everyone else to get easier care. In Texas, Advanced Nurse Practitioners and Physician Assistants can no longer write scripts for those opiates unless they are employed at a hospital or hospice. There are also no refills and no call-in or electronic orders for them (at least in some states), meaning the patient has to make another trip to the dr for a physical script.
I hope for the best for you.
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Do you think opiate pain medications should be outlawed for noncancer sufferers as in chronic pain? [View all]
UglyGreed
Nov 2014
OP
My wife has had a severe pain at the base of her skull for 79+ years caused by polio in the brain
indepat
Nov 2014
#63
My wife had taken bleeder pain pills until she nearly bled to death about twenty years ago, then
indepat
Nov 2014
#211
There is a critical distinction between experiencing euphoria as a side effect
loyalsister
Nov 2014
#75
If a doctor ever said that to me, I'd be hard pressed to keep my temper.
Liberal Veteran
Nov 2014
#79
You're right, loyalsister. I've never really experienced the "drug high" folks talk about.
catbyte
Nov 2014
#157
Those kind of doctors are either paranoid of the DEA or lacking in empathy.
Liberal Veteran
Nov 2014
#15
Even then you see doctors now afraid to prescribe necessary pain meds...
DeadLetterOffice
Nov 2014
#47
Toradol is great, but limited to less than 5 days use due to high risk of GI bleeding.
Liberal Veteran
Nov 2014
#24
Yeah, my experience with toradol was a little over a month ago (kidney stones).
Liberal Veteran
Nov 2014
#31
To me it was more like being repeatedly stabbed in the kidney with a dull steak knife..
EX500rider
Nov 2014
#58
whether it should be legal or not, drawing the line based on having cancer or not makes no sense.
unblock
Nov 2014
#33
Huh? So if you have major surgery or are in a car accident, you should not be able to
madinmaryland
Nov 2014
#36
I don't think anyone who is not your Dr should tell you what you can and cannot take or do
NightWatcher
Nov 2014
#45
Been there. My Dr's answer to my pain is to throw more muscle relaxers at me
NightWatcher
Nov 2014
#49
It should be a human right to not feel pain from a disease or any pain causing medical condition.
L0oniX
Nov 2014
#53
I think people should mind their own business. What the DR and the Patient decide should be the onl
demtenjeep
Nov 2014
#59
I had a horrible tooth infection that lasted for a week & used oxycodone for pain relief.
U4ikLefty
Nov 2014
#67
Perhaps our constant state of war adds to the number of people using pain medication.
UglyGreed
Nov 2014
#183
Anyone wanting it outlawed have probably never suffered from incurable ongoing severe
RKP5637
Nov 2014
#85
I think we should help people in pain get relief from their pain, whatever works for them.
eShirl
Nov 2014
#99
Your thread title is a strawman - they are not talking about 'outlawing' them
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2014
#114
In #107, you said "the non-opiates ones caused me more harm than good"
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2014
#122
God no. I just had major surgery in Serbia (which only uses opoid medication while the patient is
MillennialDem
Nov 2014
#124
You might want to distinguish between long term and post-operative and other short term use.
merrily
Nov 2014
#126
The addiction rate for people without previous addictive traits is less than 3%
Xithras
Nov 2014
#163
unless Du'ers have degrees in pain management, their opinions are really going to be unnecessary
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2014
#136
its not about respect. my comment was said because most people have idiosyncratic opinions
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2014
#146
no, i get it. this is what i mean, this conversation for those of us not in pain or those of us who
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2014
#152
No, people in pain should have all medical options to stop pain. However, the Pharm. Corps
Sunlei
Nov 2014
#139
I agree with you. It's true, IMO. HOwever, every time this subject comes up on DU I have found so
CTyankee
Nov 2014
#173
This is such a slippery slope. First and paramount - pain is subjective and cannot be quantitated.
Avalux
Nov 2014
#145
Whistleblowers say military doctors and VA have overprescribed powerful narcotics
UglyGreed
Nov 2014
#184
I think when people are referring to a candy store they mostly are talking about how easy it
seaglass
Nov 2014
#190