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TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
38. enough of the racism about the jurors
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 05:54 AM
Nov 2014

I'm really fucking tired of people constantly bringing up the race of the jurors as if they're so racist that they would make their decision based on their own race or anyone else's. Racism is never going to end until people STOP thinking that a person's race or the race of another is what makes even their most critical and important decisions.

The racial make up of the jurors and how they voted matters not one single iota, and I'm shocked that anyone would even consider their races. I'm pissed off that their races were even reported. It's the ONLY thing about them that has been reported, and it should be abundantly obvious why... so that even those people that claim to abhor racism and love to point it out in everyone else whether it's there or not can happily be racist themselves believing that any juror on that panel whether white or black made their decision based on race while being entirely blind to how racist that is not to mention how insulting to those jurors regardless of which race they are.

As for why they voted as they did... no one here other than me has given a single fart in the wind about evidence from the first report of the incident. Anyone else that may have has kept their mouths shut all this time. Best of luck getting anyone to even look at it other than the race part since believing that the races of the jurors is all that moved them has been fashionable here with no one even realizing how grossly racist and insulting that is.

This case has caused far more damage to race relations than anything else I can think of in more decades than I care to consider. Every bit of reporting continually emphasized race with every single article when not one single person actually involved in the incident ever said one single thing about anyone's race. Even those people that normally and thankfully never even notice anyone's race or how or why it may move them in their beliefs and decision making have jumped on the racist bandwagon not seeing anyone as a person but as a WHITE person or as a BLACK person. Just how the hell does anyone expect to overcome racial problems or racism in general by emphasizing everyone's race? The only way that racism can ever stop is to stop looking at everyone as a person of XYZ race and believing it is the end all and be all of everything they say or do, and to do that as someone who claims they aren't racist and without even realizing how racist it is to be judging the decisions of the jurors solely based on their races is abominable.

I keep having terrible visions of the civil rights era where black men protested wearing or carrying signs that said "I Am A Man" meaning they weren't a BLACK man but a man just like any other man. Martin Luther King would be rolling over in his grave to see people that claim to abhor racism figuratively hanging a sign on every person that says "I Am A Black Man/Woman" or "I Am A White Man/Woman" utterly destroying everything that works when it comes to overcoming racism. Rather than shaming the media by emphasizing everyone's race, everyone EMBRACED it believing that they were somehow helping to turn the tide against racism when all it has done was cause more racism than I've ever personally seen in my life.

As a lily white blonde person so light I'm practically translucent I seem to be a target for every racist on earth that believe that because I'm so extremely white that they can freely make racist remarks with the belief that I feel the same way. I can't even count anymore the number of people I've publicly roasted alive and while at work making the foul judgment that because I practically glow in the dark that I'm just as racist as they are. And every single time not ONE other person stood up with me though many had said something in thanks very quietly and under their breath for which I also roasted them for being so disgustingly cowardly. Never in my life have I ever let any racist comments go past me, and I utterly resent the assumption that my glowing whiteness makes me just as racist as these foul people. Anyone I see doing it here is equally going to get the rough edge of my tongue. Since I only even open a small fraction of threads here and have an ignore list so long that it could probably wrap around my entire town several times I absolutely cringe to imagine how much of the racism here that I'm not even seeing as what I have seen has been absolutely appalling.

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Berlin 1933 olddots Nov 2014 #1
Really... Oktober Nov 2014 #4
you aren't in Africa. Shivering Jemmy Nov 2014 #10
*looks out the window* Oktober Nov 2014 #13
Good. Glad you saw sense. Shivering Jemmy Nov 2014 #16
I'm sure that the Africans.... Oktober Nov 2014 #17
you aren't in Africa. Shivering Jemmy Nov 2014 #19
What are you basing that on? Oktober Nov 2014 #21
What I am basing it on Shivering Jemmy Nov 2014 #24
Ohhhh... Oktober Nov 2014 #30
If you were in Africa you wouldn't be shivering snooper2 Nov 2014 #51
Are you saying Oktober has been making up living in Africa for months now Recursion Nov 2014 #25
No doubt there is indeed, a particular reason. LanternWaste Nov 2014 #73
Made me think of Jimmy two times from Goodfellas rudolph the red Nov 2014 #83
I'm sorry, 12 shots... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #2
Yup. Agschmid Nov 2014 #7
Twelve shots to kill one person. truedelphi Nov 2014 #11
This. Period. nt Bobbie Jo Nov 2014 #60
Fact remains that Brown was not armed. madfloridian Nov 2014 #3
Are you under the impression that... Oktober Nov 2014 #6
Yes. Shivering Jemmy Nov 2014 #9
I'm under the impression that for some magical reason, belligerent white folks Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #14
you see what every weekend? hfojvt Nov 2014 #86
To answer your question Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #88
Yes. There is no excuse for this mess. madfloridian Nov 2014 #22
It's amazing how easy it is to say... Oktober Nov 2014 #23
Tell that to Micheal. nt arthritisR_US Nov 2014 #47
it is easy to claim Mike Brown "looked like a demon, and grunted" noiretextatique Nov 2014 #77
Are you under the impression that... kcr Nov 2014 #49
Who was 'damaged' in this case, the one WITH the weapon or the one WITHOUT the weapon? sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #55
Oh, I see... That's new standard? One has to take damage before responding with force? Oktober Nov 2014 #66
Oh you are right about one thing, 'this whole event has turned off the logical parts of everyone's sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #68
A trial would be a good place to answer those. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #81
I don't fault the grand jury for their verdict, they were given select evidence... Spazito Nov 2014 #5
Let's get real. That grand jury was not arthritisR_US Nov 2014 #20
The prosecutor presented a defense case for wilson, the grand jury didn't receive any evidence for.. Spazito Nov 2014 #28
That is exactly as I see it! I'm so mad I arthritisR_US Nov 2014 #45
you haven't read a single page of the evidence presented apparently snooper2 Nov 2014 #62
You are wrong in your assumption. nt arthritisR_US Nov 2014 #67
Sorry here's the link pettypace Nov 2014 #8
9 of the 12 jurors are needed to indict davidn3600 Nov 2014 #12
That's why they needed nine WHITE people. Dollars to donuts, all nine said no indictment. BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #26
Again, because all white people are racists. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #35
no, but there are some racist white people noiretextatique Nov 2014 #75
the decision by the grand jury was unanimous- snooper2 Nov 2014 #52
That's not what I heard. That said, the GJ in Ferguson doesn't NEED all twelve. BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #58
Link please to where it is stated "the decision by the grand jury was unanimous".. Spazito Nov 2014 #76
By that "logic" mythology Nov 2014 #54
Good thing you put that word in quotation marks. BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #59
If I recall correctly, I heard that that grand jury was empaneled before this shooting. WillowTree Nov 2014 #65
Why are you promoting whitewashing the Grand Jury and Wilson? Do you agree with their decision? BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #15
What a load of hooey... n/t Jacoby365 Nov 2014 #18
Thank you! ^^^This!^^^ eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #27
or you could just read all the documents yourself TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #80
There are probably hundreds of scientific studies procon Nov 2014 #29
well, those are all claims that the prosecutor made, anyway fishwax Nov 2014 #31
Exactly MaggieD Nov 2014 #40
That sorry excuse for a prosecutor should have either recused himself or have the Gov remove BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #61
The problem isn't that the grand jury didn't indict. arissa Nov 2014 #32
Superb response! +1 Behind the Aegis Nov 2014 #33
Another problem is the law in Missouri that gives way too much lovemydog Nov 2014 #37
It doesnt say any jurors disagreed. mr_liberal Nov 2014 #34
In his garbled explanation MFM008 Nov 2014 #42
Do you have a link for that? Wella Nov 2014 #36
enough of the racism about the jurors TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #38
LMAO MaggieD Nov 2014 #41
That's Racist Specialist-Ed Nov 2014 #71
I said that TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #72
who said you were a racist? noiretextatique Nov 2014 #74
who said anything about me being racist? TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #82
whats this...? trekbiker Nov 2014 #84
Oh brother MaggieD Nov 2014 #39
where's the link to this NY Times story? TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #43
It's in Reply #8. But the OP author should edit to add it to the OP. nt pinboy3niner Nov 2014 #44
thanks much! on edit - I don't have a reply #8 TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #48
Here is the link BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #50
Naivety is not the same as innocence and is not something to be proud of. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #46
personally i think there should be a like button tiredtoo Nov 2014 #53
The only way the actual, sworn evidence ... sendero Nov 2014 #56
Explain this JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #57
Might Be Overreading It JAG ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #63
"At least nine" kdmorris Nov 2014 #64
There is a lot of racial injustice, this case may not have been the one to use as an example NightWatcher Nov 2014 #69
Most credible witnesses according to whom? Were the witnesses cross examined? stevenleser Nov 2014 #70
damn good question noiretextatique Nov 2014 #79
It is not up to a GJ to determine which witnesses are "most credible." The GJ, faced with CONFLIC- WinkyDink Nov 2014 #78
of course, we will never have the officer's initial statement (there was no report by him) JCMach1 Nov 2014 #85
we will never know Nevada Blue Nov 2014 #87
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