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heaven05

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60. well, I'll listen to you

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:12 PM

Nov 2014

but I know what I discussed with those Africans while studying at Boston University. It wasn't all liberation milk and cookies. Yes I know of the support that the USSR provided to different liberation movements around the world, I don't deny that, but racism was alive and well in Russia(old USSR) as it was here. Just what I got from my conversations with the different Africans I met at different parties and functions in the early 70's. But yes I respect your intelligence and forthrightness. Thank you for any help you might afford to my geopolitical blind spots. I don't know it all, I just know what racism looks and smells like and there is plenty to be found in the last day or so. Here and elsewhere.

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What is NOT particularly helpful with regard to Ferguson [View all] markpkessinger Nov 2014 OP

+1 When I saw the title of your thread, my back went up because I had merrily Nov 2014 #1

I had an argument with someone last night, over just this issue... truth2power Nov 2014 #2

Thank you annabanana Nov 2014 #3

Eh - it just doesn't go over well is all..... maced666 Nov 2014 #4

Unless you intended to be sarcastic, your post is offensive and chervilant Nov 2014 #5

I don't mean to be insensitive, but how is stealing stuff not in poor taste? Adrahil Nov 2014 #7

Several defensible research articles and books chervilant Nov 2014 #10

With all due respect... truth2power Nov 2014 #8

Rioting is the language of the unheard. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #43

Sorry, cannot support that. Adrahil Nov 2014 #6

Understanding why and how chervilant Nov 2014 #13

Fair enough... Adrahil Nov 2014 #14

Please see my other post to you herein above. chervilant Nov 2014 #15

Actually, I think it does. Adrahil Nov 2014 #18

Many of the protest groups chervilant Nov 2014 #20

Where did mention race? Adrahil Nov 2014 #22

I was referring to the deliberate use by the co-opted M$M of footage chervilant Nov 2014 #26

I'll let it go at that. I can't really disagree... Adrahil Nov 2014 #31

Advocating against violence does not help the people to find what to DO SoCalDem Nov 2014 #29

I agree. Register and fookin' VOTE if you want change. Adrahil Nov 2014 #30

Yes, they need to have faith in the system that has let them down over and over again!! jeff47 Nov 2014 #33

Unbelievable isn't it? I cannot believe what I'm hearing here. nt laundry_queen Nov 2014 #64

The county elections aren't until the spring. jeff47 Nov 2014 #32

Betrayed or not, sooner or later people have to make the move to change SoCalDem Nov 2014 #37

They are. Right now. jeff47 Nov 2014 #38

I am so dismayed by your post, I don't know where to begin. chervilant Nov 2014 #45

Here is something "to do": chervilant Nov 2014 #47

I think both had impacts on the civil rights movement justiceischeap Nov 2014 #21

Alright... I buy that as far as it goes.... but.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #24

Happens when the "concern" is served up with heaping spoonfulls of racism & classism. baldguy Nov 2014 #9

If they were facing down the police, I might agree.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #19

If they were facing down the police, they'd be dead. jeff47 Nov 2014 #34

What happens to a dream deferred . . . gollygee Nov 2014 #11

Would you post this as an OP? It's perfect. KittyWampus Nov 2014 #36

Thanks for that loyalsister Nov 2014 #12

I couldn't agree with you more kydo Nov 2014 #16

Thank you for this post. chervilant Nov 2014 #23

No justice, no peace. kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #17

Not just a liberal perspective, but from a Trotskyist perspective..... socialist_n_TN Nov 2014 #25

NO ONE heaven05 Nov 2014 #28

That's because there's been no serious threat to capitalism......... socialist_n_TN Nov 2014 #44

Bolsheviks are/were just heaven05 Nov 2014 #46

Geez, you're talking about bias....... socialist_n_TN Nov 2014 #50

No they were racist heaven05 Nov 2014 #52

Your response was so full of B.S. that I just had to respond. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #53

yes it is heaven05 Nov 2014 #57

You continue to miss the point. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #59

Understand this heaven05 Nov 2014 #61

He and I probably agree on that one thing, at least. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #62

Comrade, I must respectfully disagree. The USSR supported national KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #56

well, I'll listen to you heaven05 Nov 2014 #60

I apologize that it has taken me so long to respond. I should say first of KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #66

thank you heaven05 Nov 2014 #67

Interesting article that bears on this subject directly (vis-a-vis the BPP and Cointelpro): KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #68

yes, I know of it heaven05 Nov 2014 #69

That is a bit of an over-simplification. Riots in and of themselves will not KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #40

Yeah I wrote this in haste and almost edited to reflect the very thing... socialist_n_TN Nov 2014 #42

Kick from a fellow Trot! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #48

Thanks Odin!...... socialist_n_TN Nov 2014 #51

thank you heaven05 Nov 2014 #27

Much more privileged people also riot, for seemingly no reason Recursion Nov 2014 #35

Exactly. alarimer Nov 2014 #71

Rioting is the language of the voiceless. Avalux Nov 2014 #39

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #41

I can understand where you're coming from, Mark, I really do..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #49

Spike Lee perfectly captured the riot in "Do the Right Thing" Johonny Nov 2014 #54

Human nature makes rioting a response Jenoch Nov 2014 #55

The rioters on Youtube from last night were laughing. maced666 Nov 2014 #58

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #63

I forgive it all. GitRDun Nov 2014 #65

I don't think the rioting/looting is political; I think it's opportunistic alarimer Nov 2014 #70

Well written War Horse Nov 2014 #72