Did Mike Brown grab the gun or not?

[TorchTheWitch]

18. does it matter?

There's probably some dna or fingerprint analysis that may or may not show anything. Does he need to have touched the gun? If he was grabbing for it but wasn't able to get a hold of it is that somehow not as good? The shot fired in the car hit his thumb indicating that his hand was reaching for it.

I'm guessing that if one is going to plunge through the cop's window past their armpits and hit the cop with their fists they had better make sure he can't pull out his gun and kill them. It doesn't seem very reasonable to me to go through the window and assault the officer knowing he has a gun without attempting to disarm him unless you have a death wish. Therefore I'm going with yes, he likely tried to disarm the officer as he'd be batshit crazy to do what he did and not try to disarm him or at the least attempt to prevent Wilson from drawing his gun which still comes down to a struggle over the gun.

Documents of the case are here...

http://documents.latimes.com/ferguson-grand-jury/

They aren't very well organized, so you'd have to just plow through them and find the ones concerning the wound to the thumb and the relevant forensic evidence.

I'm really not seeing that it makes any difference whether or not he was trying to grab the gun, whether or not he touched it, etc. It seems logical that he would not have plunged through the window and punched the officer while knowing the officer had the gun, and where it was located yet not attempt to disarm the officer or prevent the officer from using the gun. As we all know, Brown was not successful in getting hold the the gun.

I'm just not getting what the point of your question is.