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Showing Original Post only (View all)Transcripts show #DarrenWilson lied to the grand jury [View all]
Transcripts show #DarrenWilson lied to the grand jury
By: Masoninblue Wednesday November 26, 2014 4:55 am
Officer Darren Wilson testified that he knew about the theft of a box of cigarillos from the Ferguson Market, before encountering Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson. However, Officer Wilsons supervisor testified that he spoke to Wilson after the shooting, and that Wilson did not know anything about the stealing call. In an apparent effort to turn unreasonable actions into a reasonable excuse to pull the gun out, Wilson connected the stop to the call about the in-store theft.
First we have a transcript of his grand jury testimony:
Question by Prosecutor Ms. Whirley:
Q: Okay. Did you get any other calls between the time of the sick baby call and your interaction with Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson?
A: While on the sick case call, a call came out for a stealing in progress from the local market on West Florissant, that the suspects traveling toward QT. I didnt hear the entire call, I was on my portable radio, which isnt exactly the best. I did hear that a suspect was wearing a black shirt and that a box of Cigarillos was stolen.
Q: And this was your call or you just heard the call?
A: It was not my call. I heard the call.
Q: Some other officers were dispatched to that call.
A: I believe two others were.
Q: Was it a call you were going to go toalso?
A: No.
Q: So you werent really geared to handle that call?
A: No.
/snip/
A: As I approached them, I stopped a couple of feet in front of Johnson as they are walking toward me, I am going toward them. As Johnson came along my drivers side mirror I said, why dont you guys walk on the sidewalk? He kept walking, as he is walking, he said, we are almost to our destination.
Q: Do you think he used those words destination, we are almost to our destination?
A: Yes, maam. He said we are almost to our destination and he pointed this direction over my vehicle. So like in a northeasternly (sic) direction. As he did that, he kept walking and Brown was starting to come around the mirror and as he came around the mirror I said, well, whats wrong with the sidewalk? Brown then replied, um it has vulgar language.
Q: You can say it, say it.
A: Brown then replied, fuck what you have to say. And when he said that, it drew my attention totally to Brown. It was very unusual and not expected response from a simple request.
When I start looking at Brown, first thing I notice is in his right hand, his hand is full of Cigarillos. I looked in my mirror, I did a double check that Johnson was wearing a black shirt. These are the two from the stealing.
And they kept walking, as I said, they never once stopped, never got on the sidewalk, they stayed in the middle of the road.
So I got on my radio and Frank 21 is my call sign that day, I said Frank 21 Im on Canfield with two, send me another car.
I then placed my car in reverse and backed up and I backed up just past them and then angled my vehicle, the back of my vehicle to kind of cut them off, kind of to keep them somewhat contained.
[GJ, Vol. V pp. 202-209]
Q: Okay. Did you get any other calls between the time of the sick baby call and your interaction with Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson?
A: While on the sick case call, a call came out for a stealing in progress from the local market on West Florissant, that the suspects traveling toward QT. I didnt hear the entire call, I was on my portable radio, which isnt exactly the best. I did hear that a suspect was wearing a black shirt and that a box of Cigarillos was stolen.
Q: And this was your call or you just heard the call?
A: It was not my call. I heard the call.
Q: Some other officers were dispatched to that call.
A: I believe two others were.
Q: Was it a call you were going to go toalso?
A: No.
Q: So you werent really geared to handle that call?
A: No.
/snip/
A: As I approached them, I stopped a couple of feet in front of Johnson as they are walking toward me, I am going toward them. As Johnson came along my drivers side mirror I said, why dont you guys walk on the sidewalk? He kept walking, as he is walking, he said, we are almost to our destination.
Q: Do you think he used those words destination, we are almost to our destination?
A: Yes, maam. He said we are almost to our destination and he pointed this direction over my vehicle. So like in a northeasternly (sic) direction. As he did that, he kept walking and Brown was starting to come around the mirror and as he came around the mirror I said, well, whats wrong with the sidewalk? Brown then replied, um it has vulgar language.
Q: You can say it, say it.
A: Brown then replied, fuck what you have to say. And when he said that, it drew my attention totally to Brown. It was very unusual and not expected response from a simple request.
When I start looking at Brown, first thing I notice is in his right hand, his hand is full of Cigarillos. I looked in my mirror, I did a double check that Johnson was wearing a black shirt. These are the two from the stealing.
And they kept walking, as I said, they never once stopped, never got on the sidewalk, they stayed in the middle of the road.
So I got on my radio and Frank 21 is my call sign that day, I said Frank 21 Im on Canfield with two, send me another car.
I then placed my car in reverse and backed up and I backed up just past them and then angled my vehicle, the back of my vehicle to kind of cut them off, kind of to keep them somewhat contained.
[GJ, Vol. V pp. 202-209]
Second, now we have a transcript of his direct supervisors testimony. Sergeant LNU* responded to the scene within minutes after the shooting and was the first person to interview him.
Question by a Prosecutor Ms. Alizadeh
Q: Did he know about it? Did he talk about knowing about the stealing?
A: He did not know anything about the stealing call.
Q: He told you he did not know anything about the stealing?
A: He did not know anything. He was out on another call in the apartment complex adjacent to Canfield Green.
[GJ, Vol. V, pp. 52-53]
Question by a GJ member
Q: Now, my question to you is this. Are you saying that because he told you he didnt know about it or are you saying that because he didnt mention It to you when you were talking to him?
A: He did not mention it to me again. I learned about it at a later time.
Q: Has he ever told you, yeah, I didnt know anything about what happened up at the Ferguson Market?
A: Yes, he told me that in subsequent conversations.
Q: He told you he didnt know about there being a stealing at the Ferguson Market?
A: Correct
[GJ, Vol. V, p. 58]
Q: Did he know about it? Did he talk about knowing about the stealing?
A: He did not know anything about the stealing call.
Q: He told you he did not know anything about the stealing?
A: He did not know anything. He was out on another call in the apartment complex adjacent to Canfield Green.
[GJ, Vol. V, pp. 52-53]
Question by a GJ member
Q: Now, my question to you is this. Are you saying that because he told you he didnt know about it or are you saying that because he didnt mention It to you when you were talking to him?
A: He did not mention it to me again. I learned about it at a later time.
Q: Has he ever told you, yeah, I didnt know anything about what happened up at the Ferguson Market?
A: Yes, he told me that in subsequent conversations.
Q: He told you he didnt know about there being a stealing at the Ferguson Market?
A: Correct
[GJ, Vol. V, p. 58]
The shooting happened on Saturday, August 9, 2014. Wilson was not questioned by anyone else until after he conferred with his lawyer at the station house. Both witnesses testified before the grand jury on September 16, 2014, which was 5 weeks after the shooting.
My question is, how can anyone believe Officer Darren Wilson regarding any material issue of fact when he lied about the reason he stopped the boys to portray them as criminal thieves?
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With all due respect, you are mis-stating the contents of the transcript. Wilson does not
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2014
#31
All valid questions but all based solely on your inferences and not on anything specifically
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2014
#40
Potential defendants are usually legally entitled to give testimony before a grand jury
branford
Nov 2014
#27
Seems 22 and 25 when they last talked to Wilson were looking for a guy in Sharondale apartments.
rgbecker
Nov 2014
#48
Correct, Wilson has no idea who the two teens are. Some people must pretend otherwise
Rex
Nov 2014
#55
And a few here believe a cop deserves to get away with murder as by the desperate attempts
Rex
Nov 2014
#62
Brown's family's lawyers say stop had nothing to do with convenience store theft.
rgbecker
Nov 2014
#24
It doesn't seem to matter what their training is, too many cops seem to do whatever they
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2014
#103
What was said over the radio by other than Wilson does not prove shit. It proves the information was
GoneFishin
Nov 2014
#23
Not to mention colaborating with other officers on the way to and from Hospital...
rgbecker
Nov 2014
#26
Also, having a say in how long to leave the body in place until they decided if
GoneFishin
Nov 2014
#125
Has anyone located in the jury's transcript a testimony of the distance from Wilson to Brown?
rgbecker
Nov 2014
#28
These proceedings have no bearing on any future civil suit. But why ask, when only the family knows?
WinkyDink
Nov 2014
#67
"Robbery Had Nothing to Do with Lethal Shooting, Ferguson Police Chief Says" (Aug 15, 2014)
IdaBriggs
Nov 2014
#36
In Vol.5 Page 202. of the transcript Wilson says as he is quoted above about 'store theft'
vkkv
Nov 2014
#52
Sorry, make that Vol 21 - Page 71 and 72. Dispatch says Wilson responded to theft.
vkkv
Nov 2014
#79
See post #36. Either the Chief of Police lied to the public (and never retracted)
IdaBriggs
Nov 2014
#80
Okay, Vol 5. Pages 52-53 witness establablishes that Wilson did NOT KNOW about the robbery.
vkkv
Nov 2014
#86
"the Chief of Police fucked it all up for Wilson": Not really, as the IGNORANT GJ just showed us.
WinkyDink
Nov 2014
#68
And the thing is, this contradiction, a MAJOR one, ought to have forced a trial. Instead, the GJ
WinkyDink
Nov 2014
#72
God, remember how the DoJ used to act? Little Rock and Ike; U Of Alabama and JFK and the great
WinkyDink
Nov 2014
#76
And the Ferguson Police Chief confirms that Wilson did not know about the alleged robbery:
sabrina 1
Nov 2014
#77