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pipoman

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38. See, the cop gets to be the aggressor, it's his job

Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:15 AM

Nov 2014

Yes, it was determined he did know about the robbery and had a description of the assailants.

There is no way to win based on the evidence. You are asking for a repeat of Zimmerman. Know-nothing public demands a trial, prosecution knows there isn't a case but files based on public pressure, Zimmerman walks. Alternatively the prosecution is allowed to do their job and a year or two later more evidence surfaces and the case can be successfully prosecuted. ...can't happen now...

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Shadow Trial: Prosecutors in Ferguson violated our right to an open criminal justice system. [View all] justiceischeap Nov 2014 OP

Secretive, occult dealings are not justice csziggy Nov 2014 #1

I'm convinced that a trial would have done that community and many others a world of good justiceischeap Nov 2014 #2

Exactly - hiding the evidence has angered people as much as the shooting did csziggy Nov 2014 #4

Out in the open? There hasn't been a more transparent grand jury ever JonLP24 Nov 2014 #48

During the process all we had were selected leads csziggy Nov 2014 #49

Pretty much all grand jury proceedings are closed to the public JonLP24 Nov 2014 #50

I'm talking about the legal requirement of closed grand jury proceedings csziggy Nov 2014 #53

Grand juries are usually required to secret by law JonLP24 Nov 2014 #54

I meant to say "I'm NOT talking about the legal requirement of closed grand jury proceedings" csziggy Nov 2014 #55

Grand juries are not public. pipoman Nov 2014 #3

Sure, sure... if that helps you sleep better at night. justiceischeap Nov 2014 #5

I suspect he knew what the grand jury determined... pipoman Nov 2014 #8

Can you say with 100% certainty that he actually presented all the evidence to the grand jury? justiceischeap Nov 2014 #11

I trust that the grand jury heard the evidence pipoman Nov 2014 #16

Wilson, the Defendant here, was never cross examined. woolldog Nov 2014 #18

Not extraordinary or unbelievable or rare or even unusual in a grand jury proceeding. .. pipoman Nov 2014 #21

Um, yes it is. woolldog Nov 2014 #22

By whom? pipoman Nov 2014 #23

By whom? woolldog Nov 2014 #24

So he was questioned by the prosecutor? pipoman Nov 2014 #25

Yes. woolldog Nov 2014 #26

So let me make sure I have this right.... pipoman Nov 2014 #27

He conducted it as if it were a direct exam. woolldog Nov 2014 #28

Isn't it a direct examination by definition? pipoman Nov 2014 #29

He's the Defendant in the proceeding, which is captioned Missouri v. Wilson woolldog Nov 2014 #33

The defendant can always be called in a gj case pipoman Nov 2014 #35

You are completely missing the point. woolldog Nov 2014 #37

I don't believe it matters pipoman Nov 2014 #41

In other words: woolldog Nov 2014 #44

I'm not defending anything, pipoman Nov 2014 #45

Of course you are. woolldog Nov 2014 #46

Keep lying to yourself if you wish. .. pipoman Nov 2014 #47

Seriously? Again, you are wrong. woolldog Nov 2014 #52

What felony? Try "alleged" (if you can identify death penalty level felony). nt IdaBriggs Nov 2014 #17

Yes, if person 'a' runs out of a bank with alarms sounding, with a bag of money, pipoman Nov 2014 #19

Nice strawman rufus dog Nov 2014 #31

yep pipoman Nov 2014 #36

Is jaywalking now a felony? rufus dog Nov 2014 #30

Assaulting/battering a police officer is a felony pipoman Nov 2014 #32

again you got nothing rufus dog Nov 2014 #34

See, the cop gets to be the aggressor, it's his job pipoman Nov 2014 #38

Wrong rufus dog Nov 2014 #39

Have you read the transcripts? pipoman Nov 2014 #40

are you referring to the part about Wilson rufus dog Nov 2014 #43

Give up with that one. Not worth it. He's so fucking transparent. morningfog Nov 2014 #51

Someone asked me to point to what I consider open racism KitSileya Nov 2014 #57

Help him sleep? More like a wet dream. morningfog Nov 2014 #15

The whole point is that a grand jury was not the best way to handle this csziggy Nov 2014 #6

It followed Missouri criminal procedure, and again pipoman Nov 2014 #10

Michael Baden wasn't allowed to testify aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2014 #7

The problem is, since they didn't do measurements justiceischeap Nov 2014 #12

I have been asking this question a lot BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #9

The public does not have a right to have Wilson on trial Gman Nov 2014 #13

You missed the entire gist of the article justiceischeap Nov 2014 #14

No, it wasn't a trial, it was a grand jury pipoman Nov 2014 #20

'and in another breath proclaim Snowden a hero Ichingcarpenter Nov 2014 #42

nobody has a legal or constitutional right to a public trial of anyone without probable cause TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #56