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VanillaRhapsody

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24. BUT they didn't get ANY direction from Prosecution which IS his job....you know prosecuting...

Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:32 PM

Nov 2014

He is SUPPOSED to pull all the witness and documents together FOR the Jury.. I was on a jury in an actual murder trial....so I have kinda seen what a Prosecutor is SUPPOSED to do....

The ADA also gave them FALSE and 30 yr old unconstitutional statute on what is legal for a cop with a fleeing suspect and shooting to kill.....a Statute that was deemed unconstitutional before this ADA ever became one....the DA which by the way....never even gave this jury a charge to decide on....

The whole damn thing is a farce....

And as one on a Jury of a murder trial of a Black victim and Black Suspect....with a jury full of White Upper Middle class Americans....hearing what they said about the victim in that jury room.....I had to immediately leave my town for a few days I was SOOOOO disgusted by them and with what I saw and heard during that entire experience. I wanted away from those bigotted jurors who would swear to you they are not racist, completely oblivious to it...they utterly made me nauseous...

Mainly a Public defender that presented NO alternative theory NOR a single witness.....he showed up every day looking like he slept in his suit....the same suit day after day. In other words...HE didn't do HIS job.....I was completely and utterly horrified and mortified by the whole courtroom experience....if I ever get a Jury Notice again my heart will sink...

So BELIEVE me when I tell you this.....this is not an episode of L.A. Law....things are MUCH different in the courtroom in real life....

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If 12 witnesses said Wilson shot at Brown as Brown ran away and only 4 witnesses denied that, [View all] Vattel Nov 2014 OP

You do not as a jury simply add up the number of accounts and rule in favor of the account with the kelly1mm Nov 2014 #1

I recognize that kelly1mm. The devil is in the details. Vattel Nov 2014 #3

SO SORRY! Did not read carefully enough! MY BAD! nt kelly1mm Nov 2014 #6

Your interpretation of my original post was very reasonable (I have now altered it). Vattel Nov 2014 #9

haha! I re read your OP and saw the change, thought I missed it the first time, and edited. kelly1mm Nov 2014 #11

Credibility is for the trial jury. Sufficency of the evidence is for the grand jury. rug Nov 2014 #5

Apparently the grand jury disagreed. Maybe jury nullification? Prosecutorial incompetence? We may kelly1mm Nov 2014 #8

I'd like to see the instructions the prosecutor gave to the grand jury. rug Nov 2014 #10

Exactly... there was more than enough here to let a jury sort it out... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #12

The attempt at making it thousands of pages won't stop people from picking it apart. Rex Nov 2014 #2

because they didn't get any charts....they didn't get anything but a document dump VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #4

They heard the actual witnesses testifying SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #18

BUT they didn't get ANY direction from Prosecution which IS his job....you know prosecuting... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #24

I absolutely cannot understand how at least an involuntary manslaughter bill wasn't returned Recursion Nov 2014 #7

And shooting a fleeing felon is not even legal if they do not pose an immediate danger. Vattel Nov 2014 #13

The Assistant district attorneys gave the jury a copy of a statute that hasn't been legal since 1985 PDJane Nov 2014 #14

No, you have got to be kidding me. That is fucking obscene! Vattel Nov 2014 #16

It was stupid for them to even bring in the fleeing suspect issue SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #19

I keep bringing this up and will continue to do so justiceischeap Nov 2014 #20

The Michael Baden private autopsy said that a wound to the arm was consistent with Brown being shot aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2014 #26

Here's why and it is beyond appalling... Spazito Nov 2014 #15

That means that there has to be another Grand Jury. That is simply unacceptable. Vattel Nov 2014 #17

This is the statute helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #22

The problem is that was NOT the statute given the Grand Jury at the beginning of... Spazito Nov 2014 #25

damn , this is nuts helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #28

Yes, it was deliberate misdirection on the part of the two ADAs... Spazito Nov 2014 #29

This is why we have a USDOJ helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #30

Way more complicated than that madville Nov 2014 #21

I think it is important not to overlook the following crucial point: Vattel Nov 2014 #23

If the physical evidence does not match the testimony of the 12 witnesses Lurks Often Nov 2014 #27

The physical evidence doesn't contradict the claim that he was shot at while he fled. Vattel Nov 2014 #33

It was meant as a general statement Lurks Often Nov 2014 #34

Good question. I just finished reading all of the witness statements. Vattel Nov 2014 #35

And when the autopsy shows the bullets hit him in the chest and forehead? NickB79 Nov 2014 #31

You wrongly assume that they all claimed that he was shot as he fled. Vattel Nov 2014 #32