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bhikkhu

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23. I always enjoyed my garden, but it was bloody hard work

Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:55 PM

Nov 2014

and I never produced very much food. I know it can be done, but its worth saying that most kids growing up on farms 100 or 200 years ago, or as far back as you want to go, really, probably longed for freedom from the drudgery, hard labor and meager returns. Before industrialized agriculture food was proportionately much more expensive and the bulk of the human population was locked up on farms, in poverty.

We all enjoy the benefits of industrialized agriculture, which is food so inexpensive almost all of us can spend our time and money on other things more enjoyable. A kitchen garden is a fine thing, especially when you don't have to depend on it to survive. The future will very likely be different, but it may not be a "joyful progress" type thing.

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United Nations Calls for an End to Industrialized Farming [View all] Pharaoh Nov 2014 OP

K&R! peacebird Nov 2014 #1

It's all about the "weeds" WhiteTara Nov 2014 #2

Weeding is hugely labor intensive. HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #4

Well, that's true too and I apologize WhiteTara Nov 2014 #5

Yes, but none of them are as cheap... HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #7

Yes, well there are no consumers WhiteTara Nov 2014 #11

El Cortito XemaSab Nov 2014 #19

Underpaid labor is the least of the issues here. proverbialwisdom Nov 2014 #14

The prioritization of that might depend on where you HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #22

If many localities in the US could do without peanut butter, bananas, and orange juice. HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #3

If weather trends continue WhiteTara Nov 2014 #8

The GCC prediction for most of the upper tier of states doesn't make it more survivable HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #9

Yeah, that's what I meant. WhiteTara Nov 2014 #10

The UN announced no such thing... SidDithers Nov 2014 #6

Thanks for the debunking. WhiteTara Nov 2014 #12

I don't disagree... SidDithers Nov 2014 #13

Sometimes I think a statistically negligible quantity of arsenic just isn't enough Major Nikon Nov 2014 #16

A bottle of water in one hand, and a massive invoice in the other... SidDithers Nov 2014 #18

Thanks for that! I was almost sold but a nagging hint of skepticism kept me reading. Towlie Nov 2014 #17

I always enjoyed my garden, but it was bloody hard work bhikkhu Nov 2014 #23

K&R proverbialwisdom Nov 2014 #15

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #20

+1000000000! nt Zorra Nov 2014 #21

I await a visit fom our Monsanto-loving U4ikLefty Nov 2014 #24

Organic Farmers have no problem telling us what the nutrients are in their soil preparation.. Cha Nov 2014 #25

You mean like cow shit? Major Nikon Nov 2014 #26

Eat up! Cha Nov 2014 #28

You act as if you have a choice Major Nikon Nov 2014 #29

You poor thing.. of course I have plenty of choices that aren't connected with your stupid Cha Nov 2014 #30

Maybe, maybe not Major Nikon Nov 2014 #31

Kick Quantess Nov 2014 #27

K & R Quantess Nov 2014 #32

More from Mae-Wan Ho... SidDithers Nov 2014 #33

Exact same thing with "Natural News" Major Nikon Nov 2014 #35

Yup. It's crank magnetism... SidDithers Nov 2014 #36

I just think it's a bit strange that all the nutbaggery comes from the same playbook Major Nikon Nov 2014 #37

Misleading OP hack89 Nov 2014 #34

Another report on UN's findings- "New UN report calls for transformation in agriculture" RiverLover Nov 2014 #38

And where in the report does it say... SidDithers Nov 2014 #39

Here's the report~ RiverLover Nov 2014 #40

Mae-Wan Ho is not a credible source anywhere, anyhow...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #41