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88. Both Dorian Johnson and the woman in the car behind Wilson's SUV said

Thu Nov 27, 2014, 04:53 PM

Nov 2014

That as Brown was running away, Wilson shot at him. Brown jerked "as if he was hit" then turned and put his hands up (or out) - this is in Tiffany Mitchell's interview with Lawrence O'Donnell and is repeated after Bill O'Reilly tried to twist her words to claim Brown was shot in her back. See the "08.18.2014 9pm MSNBC Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell -Mitchell Accused of Lying" at the link below.

Tiffany Mitchell was very consistent with her statements about this. Dorian Johnson also said Brown jerked - but he was less careful about his claims. He thought Brown had been shot in the back. He'd already seen blood on Brown's shirt after the first shot at the car.

Michael Brady (in his interview with Anderson Cooper) said he saw Brown falling forward with his hands at his belly, and Wilson was still shooting at Brown as he went down.

The witness videos are linked at this web site: http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/11/25/michael-brown-grand-jury-documents-ferguson/70098242/

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"Michael Brown wasn't shot in the back, so Wilson didn't shoot at him while he was running away" [View all] justiceischeap Nov 2014 OP

Wecht is clearly p'od about how this has unfolded. I hope we hear more from him. hlthe2b Nov 2014 #1

Poor excuse for journalism in that clip. Shemp Howard Nov 2014 #33

The Crime scene wasn't photographed either? Ichingcarpenter Nov 2014 #2

It wasn't photographed by the initial coroner on scene because his batteries were dead justiceischeap Nov 2014 #3

I've never seen even an old Perry Mason Ichingcarpenter Nov 2014 #7

Pretty clear diagram in the Post Dispatch of the crime scene Strelnikov_ Nov 2014 #85

I believe it is completely irrelevant and would have no impact pipoman Nov 2014 #4

actually SCOTUS in 85 said that no you can't shoot fleeing suspects dsc Nov 2014 #10

Are you implying Ferguson police should be abiding by 20th century law? IdaBriggs Nov 2014 #26

That's not what they said XemaSab Nov 2014 #93

it can in certain circumstances Garion_55 Nov 2014 #19

You should read up a bit on Wecht. Indydem Nov 2014 #5

Cite sources. ncjustice80 Nov 2014 #67

Just read his Wikipedia. Indydem Nov 2014 #77

His wikipedia is very impressive aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2014 #84

Oh he disagrees with the Warren Commission so therefore must be bad. Rex Nov 2014 #81

Sounds like someone waa a Republikkkan plant. ncjustice80 Nov 2014 #89

actually I think he is considered to be the best in the country, or one of. robinlynne Nov 2014 #86

THIS IS PIVOTAL!! Wilson "claims he never shot at Brown..FROM..the back after the FPD said he did!!! uponit7771 Nov 2014 #6

Wilson shot at Brown from the back indivisibleman Nov 2014 #69

The forensics show that he did azmom Nov 2014 #76

I found it 21 feet azmom Nov 2014 #87

Eyewitnesses report him stopping and turning and then walking back towardt he officer briefly indivisibleman Nov 2014 #92

A conspiracy is unlikely seveneyes Nov 2014 #8

One only has to open their eyes to see there was no conspiracy here justiceischeap Nov 2014 #14

you're right there IS heaven05 Nov 2014 #80

I don't think Brown was enraged. lovemydog Nov 2014 #32

Does anyone have a reference to Drs Baden and Wechts statement about exit wound in Browns arm?! uponit7771 Nov 2014 #9

I posted the Wecht video justiceischeap Nov 2014 #12

The kill shot must have either been the neck or the eye BlueStreak Nov 2014 #50

pattern of shot, a couple up arm, to neck, to eye, to head shot. you can find him seabeyond Nov 2014 #55

I don't think any of those shots could have been while running BlueStreak Nov 2014 #64

what person would get an eyeball shot, then put their head down to charge. fuckin stupid. seabeyond Nov 2014 #65

some of the people heaven05 Nov 2014 #11

Evidence doesn't support that claim phil89 Nov 2014 #31

right heaven05 Nov 2014 #35

no, shooting unarmed black teenagers is inflammatory noiretextatique Nov 2014 #72

Wilson got all the help he needed. Thespian2 Nov 2014 #13

Not a one of your assertions is supported by facts. Indydem Nov 2014 #15

Upon Thespian2 Nov 2014 #18

"the facts" were fictions heaven05 Nov 2014 #37

Hogwash ReRe Nov 2014 #39

It's easy for you to point at a poster and claim they are misleading, but quite another rhett o rick Nov 2014 #43

Yes, they conflict with what Fox News tells us, so they must be wrong. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2014 #54

Could some have been warning shots? madville Nov 2014 #16

As far as I know, police are not trained to fire warning shots justiceischeap Nov 2014 #20

Who knows madville Nov 2014 #25

You're right they are not trained to fire warning shots due to a bullet ricochet helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #27

Wilson did not fire his gun as he was chasing Michael Brown True Earthling Nov 2014 #17

This audio, which has been confirmed as authentic justiceischeap Nov 2014 #21

I listened to the recording several times and counted 10 shots True Earthling Nov 2014 #28

There appears to be 4 secs of silence from when the recording starts until you hear the 1st gunshot True Earthling Nov 2014 #34

pages deist99 Nov 2014 #23

The 1st witness starts on 2091 True Earthling Nov 2014 #24

Thanks deist99 Nov 2014 #29

These "witnesses" were the heaven05 Nov 2014 #44

Grandmother and daughter are agents of the police or DA? True Earthling Nov 2014 #52

They could be wrong also heaven05 Nov 2014 #57

Right - they could be wrong True Earthling Nov 2014 #62

They are lying sacks of shit ncjustice80 Nov 2014 #68

you must believe what heaven05 Nov 2014 #70

There were two shots fired at the site of the car NV Whino Nov 2014 #71

You can believe one of those witnesses if you wish, but you can't believe both. A Simple Game Nov 2014 #73

It was the insistence that he was shot in the back, now backtracking that is the problem. maced666 Nov 2014 #22

on knees shot in back of head. bullshit. i never heard this garbage. talk about seabeyond Nov 2014 #30

There was one witness in the GJ transcript who said Michael Brown was on his knees True Earthling Nov 2014 #36

ya. and woud that not be interesting to explore, as wilson got shot in the eye, dropped to knees, seabeyond Nov 2014 #40

i mean. the man is falling to the ground, DYING.... before the head shot, and that is really seabeyond Nov 2014 #42

I'm not supporting anything. I was just pointing out how that rumor or allegation True Earthling Nov 2014 #46

now PROVE to me that rumor is even there. cause i fuckin never heard that rumor, and that is what i seabeyond Nov 2014 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author heaven05 Nov 2014 #51

ok. whether the eyeball shot caused him to fal to the knees, or the neck shot caused him to fall to seabeyond Nov 2014 #59

sorry we're heaven05 Nov 2014 #60

I think there are two people that know the truth and it depends on whose truth you believe justiceischeap Nov 2014 #61

I didn't know if the rumor was posted on DU or not. True Earthling Nov 2014 #58

he was shot in the FACE heaven05 Nov 2014 #49

totally disgusted. i saw the shot pattern. totally made sense, forensically to me seabeyond Nov 2014 #53

You are absolutely correct. indivisibleman Nov 2014 #66

Posted on August 11 on Kos XemaSab Nov 2014 #94

What the prosecutor did is he gave interviews to the grand jury which he knew helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #41

I documented all the initial statements in the first week of this event. indivisibleman Nov 2014 #63

no it was not from the rear heaven05 Nov 2014 #78

the only "facts" that came out of this sham of an investigation noiretextatique Nov 2014 #74

So you invent your own fiction, way to go. Rex Nov 2014 #83

Both Dorian Johnson and the woman in the car behind Wilson's SUV said csziggy Nov 2014 #88

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2014 #90

Not sure Kilgore Nov 2014 #38

Objectivity is good. My position is that Mike Brown had no reason to turn around unless GoneFishin Nov 2014 #45

Holder's did say heaven05 Nov 2014 #56

The evidence presented before the grand jury is tainted. I don't believe shit! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #48

There really is a lot of misinformation. There were several reports Tues/Wed that Wilson fired Hoyt Nov 2014 #75

of course there heaven05 Nov 2014 #79

Wilson basically admitted to be guilty by admitting Brown ran off aquabuddha Nov 2014 #82

++++++BINGO+++++++!!!!!!! uponit7771 Nov 2014 #91