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daredtowork

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54. There Have Been Some Similar Posts - You Might Be Confusing Them
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 05:33 PM
Nov 2014

I understand where you are coming from: defenses just go up whenever you hear "begging". It happens on the street, it happens on the Internet. You automatically assume there should be some "screening system" out there to vet the real needs of people.

But there is no "screening system". If you are in a position to or are inclined to help people, all you can do is seek the best information about the situation you can and be wary that there are scammers out there. Then make your own decision. You have no business making that decision for other people - and you definitely have no business derailing aid that could avert someone from homelessness.

One thing everyone should be aware of is the process to get SSI/SSDI can take YEARS. It is especially difficult for people who weren't in manually labor jobs and for people with complex medical conditions that don't fit neatly into bureaucratic boxes. Ever since the economic meltdown of 2008, there has been an enormous backlog in these applications as well: not just because unemployed people were falling back on SSI/SSDI as a "safety net", but because the stress of longterm unemployment and going through traumatic experiences like homelessness were exacerbating underlying medical conditions and causing downward spirals into disability. Society created these stresses but then didn't create a safety net for the people exposed to them.

Once people apply for SSI/SSDI, they can't work because that would prove they "can" work - and they won't get SSI/SSDI. But then how do they pay for rent and basic necessities? At this point they can only fall back on "welfare". The problem here is that welfare is usually so minimal that it's not enough to preserve people from homelessness. But people waiting for SSI/SSDI will usually try to avoid homelessness as long as possible, because if they can just make it until they get SSI/SSDI they will have continuity in the place they have lived for how ever many years instead of having to give up all their possessions and having to go through the chaos and stress of homelessness (on top of the medical problems they are already suffering) just because they are trying to apply for SSI/SSDI.

This is a major screw up of both Welfare Reform and the SSI/SSDI system. Countless people have gone through this. I'm going through this right now. The only reason I'm not here begging on the Internet is I have my own "workarounds" going, which include an extremely understanding landlord, a housemate that has taken over the utility bills for the time being, and juggling all sorts of trades. I suspect most people in this situation are forced to give up their homes and their autonomy and move in with family.

I can't vouch for this particular person or case. I encourage people of means to give generously to people waiting for SSI/SSDI, but also give smart and get to know who you are donating to. But please don't issue stern "NO BEGGING ON THE SIDEWALK" orders without making an effort to understand that society has created a situation that drives people to that. It's really none of your business anyway.

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Best Wishes for getting $$$ to Cha Nov 2014 #1
Thank you! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #2
I'll bet it has.. nothing like the support of friends when we need a little help.. and as Bob Marley Cha Nov 2014 #3
Here is the link Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #4
Kick Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #34
Does gofundme take paypal? roody Nov 2014 #5
No on PayPal Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #6
I edited to add my PayPal and GofundMe links. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #8
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I edited the OP to add the links. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #9
Kick for visibility. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #10
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K and R for visibility greatlaurel Nov 2014 #13
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Thank you! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #20
I wish I could help but I had a stroke at the ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #18
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Thank you! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #23
Good morning! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #24
bookmarking for next week. redwitch Nov 2014 #25
I'll try! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #26
Hope this little bit helps. mnhtnbb Nov 2014 #27
Every bit helps. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #29
I wish I could help, Kalidurga Nov 2014 #28
My DHS caseworker said essentially the same thing. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #30
k&r LeftishBrit Nov 2014 #31
Thank you for the exposure! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #32
Thank you for all of your help, so far! Still have a ways to go. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #33
Kick Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #35
Thank you, OS! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #36
I did this kick last night on my cell phone Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #39
Bill Maher live? ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #41
Keeping it kicked for exposure. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #37
Please help. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #38
K roody Nov 2014 #40
Thank you! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #43
Just for clarity, all but $670 of this was raised 4 months ago ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #42
Kicking with fingers crossed. n/t ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #44
Please help. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #45
Marta and I will be sending something once I get my pay stub later this week Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #46
Thank you both! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #47
Please help. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #48
Are you really doing this again? Isn't this the fourth time? TransitJohn Nov 2014 #49
It's only the second time. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #50
I got a hide for saying it wasn't cool last time, and that was at least the second time TransitJohn Nov 2014 #51
You can search my posts. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #52
There Have Been Some Similar Posts - You Might Be Confusing Them daredtowork Nov 2014 #54
Thank you for your thoughtful explanation! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #56
You're over analyzing my position. TransitJohn Nov 2014 #60
No, it isn't. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #62
Then don't give and trash the thread. roody Nov 2014 #61
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I'm truly desperate, folks! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #53
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Hi CCD: I do not have a paypal account. I would love to help akbacchus_BC Nov 2014 #59
Just e-mailed you the information. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #64
I may be in the same boat in a couple of weeks TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #63
I'd accept your offer. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #65
we're going to need a much larger box TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #66
Gilbert also likes swapping spit! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #67
Keeping it kicked for exposure. n/t ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #69
Marta & I are kicking in again Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #71
Thank you guys so much! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #72
Please help me reach goal, folks. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #73
kick napkinz Dec 2014 #74
Thank you! I'm still a bit less than $1700 short of my goal, but hope to reach it soon. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #75
This Friday I'll throw you a few bucks. Mojo Electro Dec 2014 #76
Thank you so very much! It's scary, isn't it? ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #77
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