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rhett o rick

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117. When you say "We" you are including the Oligarchs. I do not include myself

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 12:28 PM

Nov 2014

in your "We". The Democratic machine at the top is corrupt with Conservatives. I am not part of that We.

I will never support the Oligarchs and their puppets. Goldman-Sachs is sponsoring Clinton. How can you see that as a good thing? We have candidates that have integrity.

My question about Christie was rhetorical as I knew you won't answer. The question is meant to reveal whether you support the label or the ideology. You won't tell us. I support Democratic ideology and if someone puts a (D) behind their name I won't automatically follow.

If one rejects Free Trade agreements when Republicans call for them and accept Free Trade agreements when a person with a (D) behind their names calls for them, then they have "situational principles". The same holds true for those that disparage Bush for lying us into war while accepting the same lies from HRC.

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A Hawk Named Hillary [View all] n2doc Nov 2014 OP

Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. She's not for me, thanks. Scuba Nov 2014 #1

"If she's a Democrat, then our tent is too big." CrispyQ Nov 2014 #13

Another part of the story .... Scuba Nov 2014 #84

Exactly. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #194

The Democratic Party IS a Big Tent, bvar22 Nov 2014 #392

Second! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #394

"The too big to fail tent" MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #14

The too big to fail tent... until the next round of elections Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #73

Another part of the story .... Scuba Nov 2014 #82

+1 Marr Nov 2014 #127

don't forget the heavy entanglement with The Family! MisterP Nov 2014 #159

well said! rec'n your post.. :) 2banon Nov 2014 #236

This cartoon shows Obama, but he's really an icon for the entire Democratic Party. CrispyQ Nov 2014 #314

+1 a whole bunch. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #176

HRC - Too Conservative For Democrats - Too Liberal For Republicans - A Disaster Waiting To Happen cantbeserious Nov 2014 #252

I've got a new nickname for her Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #2

She's a neocon and proud of it RiverLover Nov 2014 #3

I'll wait and see walkingman Nov 2014 #4

there's an abundance of evidence that she is indeed a hawk. cali Nov 2014 #9

"Wait and see"? If you haven't figured it out by now, I doubt you will change your mind. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #12

Well, we will elect someone - good or bad walkingman Nov 2014 #18

Accepting the "lesser of evils" is what got us where we are. As long as the "people" rhett o rick Nov 2014 #26

so you are upset that we "got here" WTF???? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #40

I can't speak for the others but I won't be happy until we have our democracy back. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #49

YOU won't be happy until miracles happen.....YOU will NEVER be happy..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #51

I thought it was the party of absolute obedience to Hillary the Great cali Nov 2014 #59

NO "chiefly British" Cali....(since as I recall you love nicknames...) VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #68

Nope, I'm not chiefly british, 'nilly. born in the U.S.A. cali Nov 2014 #71

then don't misuse "chiefly British" words VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #74

lol. now you're an expert on the use of the word. first you've never heard of it cali Nov 2014 #88

No I am not....but a dictionary IS VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #89

I posted the dictionary definition for you, 'nilly. I used the word absolutely and indubitably cali Nov 2014 #98

and silly....I pointed out....that in the dictionary it says it is "chiefly British" VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #100

what is your point, nilly? and YOU are the one that made a big deal out of my (correct) use cali Nov 2014 #107

You're thinking of "whinge", not "winj"(whatever THAT is) Ken Burch Nov 2014 #274

I'm actually in agreement with you, up to a point... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #113

I have always been a Democrat that supports the 99%. In the past years the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #66

Are you pledging to vote for whomever wins our Primary ELECTION.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #94

Do you think that Democrats blindly follow? That's not Democrats. I will never support rhett o rick Nov 2014 #104

Its not blindly following when WE decide who WE want as leader in an ELECTION called a Primary VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #106

With a Gas Mask and an ample oxygen supply... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #115

then to go around constantly criticizing and demanding others not to support her.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #120

No, its not hypocricy... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #123

Yes in fact it is.....the very epitome of it! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #124

No it isn't... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #128

I still had one more play... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #129

Whatever... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #157

whatever indeed.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #161

Is that the best you've got, 'NillaRap? elzenmahn Nov 2014 #175

NillaRap? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #309

Here's an article you might have missed. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #150

thats not an article....that's a post! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #310

My error, I meant the OP not the post. The point is that there are rhett o rick Nov 2014 #327

Oh really....please elaborate......Which Democrats exactly? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #329

I don't think any real Democrat would do a "lock-step" pledge. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #336

Is your argument that McCollough was right? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #311

When you say "We" you are including the Oligarchs. I do not include myself rhett o rick Nov 2014 #117

Amen, Rhett... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #183

NO you are NOT part of that "WE" because you are a Left Leaning Independent... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #312

Yes I do... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #330

Of course YOU do..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #334

"WE decide" who "WE want"... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #160

WE meaning DEMOCRATS VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #163

Union of "likeminded" adults... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #165

Get in line behind the person that polls at 64% and who polls beating all Republicans VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #199

Be my guest... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #204

I have and so have 64% of the Democratic party.....all the others have not gotten out of VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #207

Fine... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #210

THis is more DISTORTION of Polling data Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #212

NO its not....I have a Clear Trend across ALL polls...and YOU were abosofuckinglutely wrong! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #319

You know that the only qualification for being a Democrat, by your definition rhett o rick Nov 2014 #189

The "qualification" is a pledge to VOTE for the Primary candidate the Democrats select VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #200

I could literally write a bot that posts just like you. Marr Nov 2014 #133

and that means what? Is it supposed to hurt my fee fees? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #166

I can say obxhead Nov 2014 #171

Then it sounds like you are a Left Leaning Independent VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #172

There are a few you could ask about my dependability to the Dem party, obxhead Nov 2014 #174

My agenda is to get a Democrat elected to the Presidency in 2016....therefore I support VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #202

One More Thing... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #211

One more thing.....YOU still do not get to decide for US Democrats....WE have an election VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #313

An election THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN HELD YET... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #333

But a TRUE Democrat COULD make that pledge without the election VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #338

Hillary is LOSING to most republicans in the polls Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #213

NO Fuck No she isn't sorry...think again Kitty Kitty! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #285

Vanilla, are you trying to "punk" us? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #301

Do YOU have someone that polls better than THAT? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #315

ooooh is she now? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #286

I would rather be a left leaning independent obxhead Nov 2014 #266

and lose to Jeb Bush in 2016.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #287

Beating the Republicans by using a Republican obxhead Nov 2014 #296

Who IS a Republican? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #316

This: ^^^ CrispyQ Nov 2014 #331

and why do Left Leaning Independents think they know what a Democrat is? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #350

Are you Santa Union Scribe Nov 2014 #214

Yeah as a matter of fact.....its called a Primary Election! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #317

Who are you to demand a pledge? That is ridiculous. And juvenile. djean111 Nov 2014 #307

FACTS are FACTS...if you are NOT pledging to vote for OUR winner of OUR Democratic Primary VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #318

Maybe you do not understand my version of English - YOU are not entitled to demand djean111 Nov 2014 #337

Its not MY version of English...its the DEFINITION of Indpendent... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #339

And you do not get pledges. Just looks silly. And that's a fact. djean111 Nov 2014 #343

Actually is called BEING a Democrat...WALKING the WALK....you see...that is how VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #345

Well, it looks like we have not collectively decided on anyone as yet, right? djean111 Nov 2014 #349

Right but we can be deciding to support OUR collective decision....YOU don't VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #364

Well, Ms/Mr Decider, it matter not one whit what you call me, really. Irrelevant. djean111 Nov 2014 #371

its not a decision I make....its just a FACT! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #372

Oh, you are giving yourself waaaay too much credit - I am amused. djean111 Nov 2014 #374

ARE you pledging to vote for WHOMEVER the Democrats select in their Primary Election? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #375

Bwahahahaha! It is just a question. djean111 Nov 2014 #378

I'm in agreement with you, Rhett... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #173

Of course you do....BUT if you cannot make that pledge...you are a Left-Leaning Independent VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #201

Your labels mean nothing to me... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #203

It doesn't matter what you think about them....its the definition of the term... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #205

Well, let's have it, then... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #208

Your defense of Hillary's right-wing policy positions is pathetic. Scuba Nov 2014 #90

Right wing? This is Rightwing to you: VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #95

Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. Yes, those are right-wing. Scuba Nov 2014 #97

Again...YOU think that record above is your words "Rightwing" VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #99

Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. Which of these .... Scuba Nov 2014 #101

Please provide quotes and then we can put YOUR positions on a scale next to the stacked mountain VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #102

How many issues on your "mountain" do you think it takes to counter pro-war? Scuba Nov 2014 #105

EASY PEASY....is this enough for ya? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #109

No, because she's still pro-war. Scuba Nov 2014 #111

Oh you think so do you? FACTS do not bear that out... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #322

And she backed Bush on Iraq. Scuba Nov 2014 #326

One bullet point...so did ALOT of Americans at the time...but ignore everything else right? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #332

It took her twelve years to admit she got it wrong. I knew it was wrong on day one. Further.... Scuba Nov 2014 #379

and that means diddly squat....in comparison to the bulk of her record! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #382

Being pro-war is the ace of trumps. Scuba Nov 2014 #386

Jesus. Surely you didn't expect people to read that whole post... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #125

If they have an opinion to the contrary...YES I do.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #126

This is NOT what I want in our next president RiverLover Nov 2014 #138

that is ONE bullet point....and blindly ignore all the rest of the bullet points.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #140

I'm sorry I don't have the time to go through bullet points with you. RiverLover Nov 2014 #143

Of course you don't...those are her actual words in bullet point...and it might screw with your VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #283

What an obnoxious post. This should be alerted as spamming. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #147

Someone did.. it survived. Fla_Democrat Nov 2014 #270

Obnoxious and Spam only because it knocks YOUR narrative out of the water! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #281

Yeah that's all swell but she actively promoted the Neocon I-War. She gave speeches trying to rhett o rick Nov 2014 #277

ALL THAT VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #282

spam, 'nilly, spam! and read your own spam. it demonstrates how right wing and militaristic cali Nov 2014 #292

This is one thing I'll miss about you when you're gone 'forny wyldwolf Nov 2014 #303

Somebody tried THAT yesterday on my post and FAILED miserably! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #323

spam is about trying to drown out people with cali Nov 2014 #335

What dictionary did you get THAT out of? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #341

Spam huh? Was that YOU that tried that tactic yesterday and failed? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #321

The I want a pony! contingent...... Central Scruitinizer Nov 2014 #103

Actually it is the FAR Left and Left Leaning Independents that are upset THEY didn't get their VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #284

Bartcop was very pro-Clinton wyldwolf Nov 2014 #304

OH I sooooo agree with you.....they already think acting like Teabaggers is working for them VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #324

Hillary is certainly no pony Central Scruitinizer Dec 2014 #395

Your reply has ZERO to do with Bartcop wyldwolf Dec 2014 #396

What got us here is the SCOTUS in 2000. Also I do not ever remember thinking of President Obama jwirr Nov 2014 #45

I certainly understand and agree. When we chose W. Clinton and Obama rhett o rick Nov 2014 #53

How is SHE the lesser of two evils when SHE is to the Left of BOTH of those examples... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #325

You just can't help yourself can you? "You have even less honesty and integrity" rhett o rick Nov 2014 #340

OHHHHHH now "I" have less honesty and integrity.....well let me just show you why YOU are wrong! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #342

Do you see the quote marks? I was quoting you. You made it personal rhett o rick Nov 2014 #344

Run Forest RUNNNN!!!!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #346

Hillary is unlikely to be the lesser of two evils obxhead Nov 2014 #162

OH? And you call yourself a Democrat? A Democrat that thinks that a Hillary Clinton President VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #328

"Wait and See"??? You only need to SEE it NOW.. 2banon Nov 2014 #246

"War and Wall Street" MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #5

waaah waaaah waaaah..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #6

lol. the adorers flip the fuck out over any analysis or criticism of their heroine. cali Nov 2014 #7

the word is whine....and what I adore is a WINNER! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #8

actually, just because YOU are ignorant of a word, that doesn't mean it isn't a real word. cali Nov 2014 #10

LOL, thread winner!!! +1000 nt Logical Nov 2014 #16

Actually the word is "chiefly British"... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #36

Since you seem to believe Jeff Rosenzweig Nov 2014 #130

ooooh alot....wow....I'm busted! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #131

What was your point? Jeff Rosenzweig Nov 2014 #136

Easy Peasy...if you had been following this conversation from the beggining instead of jumping VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #137

What bandwagon? Jeff Rosenzweig Nov 2014 #141

Hillary does NOT poll higher than any republican! Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #188

Show us national polls that shows Hillary "TIED, at best, with republicans." wyldwolf Nov 2014 #196

Oh YES she fucking does...denial is NOT a river in Egypt VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #320

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #142

Thread win obxhead Nov 2014 #178

LOL I 2nd that!! RiverLover Nov 2014 #184

OOOPS thread loss! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #352

Drops the mic....and is arrested outside the theater! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #353

Gotta say.... Bobbie Jo Nov 2014 #380

NOT a bit....they cannot make me budge! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #381

LOL! I knew that poster would be in this thread. It's like a moth to flames neverforget Nov 2014 #193

I nominate DU's entire whiny Progressive corp. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #215

LOL ,says the poster that has whined numerous times in the is thread. Are you just fucking with us? Logical Nov 2014 #218

That wasn't a denial from a fact denier like you wyldwolf Nov 2014 #220

Hillary is luck to have you on this board. She will need some support come next year. nt Logical Nov 2014 #222

Still being evasive. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #224

Yes, I get a lot done, my job is to post links to stories that support my views...... Logical Nov 2014 #226

In twice the amount of time wyldwolf Nov 2014 #227

LOL, I knew that was coming soon.... Logical Nov 2014 #231

It isn't surprising that you wrote so much and still missed my point wyldwolf Nov 2014 #238

PM me and I will order you a subscription to the Nation. It is $18 well spent. nt Logical Nov 2014 #240

I already have one which is why I know that they have an anti-Clinton bias wyldwolf Nov 2014 #244

Want me to post some links to some of their liberal articles to prove they are liberal?? nt Logical Nov 2014 #248

Why would you do that? I know they're liberal, thus, they have a liberal bias wyldwolf Nov 2014 #251

You said they were like Fox news. nt Logical Nov 2014 #253

They are. They will bend, overlook and deny facts to fit their word view wyldwolf Nov 2014 #255

OK, so you are claiming "The Nation" = "Fox News", LOL, I have read all I need to read. nt Logical Nov 2014 #258

Reading is fundamental wyldwolf Nov 2014 #261

No, that is the takr away I got from your discussion. The Nation = Fox News. And worst.... Logical Nov 2014 #262

Which is why I said 'Reading is Fundamental.' Learn it. Live it. Love it. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #263

and THAT explains WHY you don't get it....you don't do nuance! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #348

This primary election season will be fun because of you! Pure entertainment. nt Logical Nov 2014 #351

Why? I support whomever wins the Democratic Primary... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #354

You must be confused by the word "primary". Read about it. There will be..... Logical Nov 2014 #361

Oh no I am not....Lets just see why I'm not shall we? From YOUR link... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #362

Once again, as most times, I have no idea what your point is. nt Logical Nov 2014 #363

Denial (of the truth) is NOT a river in Egypt! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #365

LOL, ok, so you misread the "primary season" and somehow I am confused? nt Logical Nov 2014 #366

No I didn't.... you see that is what the POINT is.....ARE you pledging to vote for OUR choice? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #368

Wow, are you really that confused...... Logical Nov 2014 #370

then you are a hypocrite.....YOU are disparaging her reputation with false statements about VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #376

LOL, the OTHER Democrats in the primary will be trashing her! Like she trashed Obama! You are.... Logical Nov 2014 #383

Can't wait for when there are actually declared candidates.....this is going to be neverforget Nov 2014 #387

This place will be a bloodbath! :-) nt Logical Nov 2014 #388

I wonder if the PUMA's will return? neverforget Nov 2014 #390

bzzzt, fail, wolf. they have an anti-corporate control, anti-war agenda. cali Nov 2014 #293

bzzt! Fail, fornia! They have an anti-Democratic party bias wyldwolf Nov 2014 #299

bzzzzt Cali Fail.....Where do you think Bernie Sanders will be getting his support AFTER he VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #377

I understand your confusion. They have a truth bias, which is also often RiverLover Nov 2014 #393

She's lucky you are against her wyldwolf Nov 2014 #229

A 2nd response to the same post? LOL, took a while to come up with something partially clever? nt Logical Nov 2014 #232

And your reply here wasn't even clever at all wyldwolf Nov 2014 #235

Wow, another zinger! You a stand up comic of something? nt Logical Nov 2014 #237

I see you've run out of anything even partially substantial to say wyldwolf Nov 2014 #241

I had nothing substantial to respond to. So I am just typing stuff. nt Logical Nov 2014 #243

You've just been typing stuff since you first came to this website wyldwolf Nov 2014 #245

Ahhhh, someone has their feelings hurt and is insulting me now. How cute. nt Logical Nov 2014 #249

Typical. You insult someone, get insulted back, then whine about it. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #250

What GOP spokesperson did compare you to? nt Logical Nov 2014 #254

None. Why would you ask that? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #257

How did I insult you? nt Logical Nov 2014 #259

Actually, I spoke too soon wyldwolf Nov 2014 #260

We get it you don't like progressives Union Scribe Nov 2014 #276

I doubt he supports HRC Rex Nov 2014 #280

I doubt you support anyone in the Democratic party wyldwolf Nov 2014 #302

Yeah Rex Nov 2014 #373

yeah, I've been in deep cover for 12 years. LOL. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #384

We get it you don't like anyone else but 'prooogresssiiivves' wyldwolf Nov 2014 #300

apt. perfect comparison. cali Nov 2014 #290

Except for the fact that it wasn't VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #359

LOL. Good ol' Cali. I'm gonna miss you when you're on vacation wyldwolf Nov 2014 #385

who whinges? Chiefly British....from YOUR link....I am not British?.....Is the poster who used it? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #30

"America Haters" LOL. cali Nov 2014 #55

do YOU pronounce it "winj"? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #76

bwhahahahahaha cali Nov 2014 #85

right.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #91

This is one of the funniest subthreads evah neverforget Nov 2014 #234

It really is. VR is like catnip to me. actually more like a tasty little mousy. cali Nov 2014 #291

Oh really? Please elaborate how YOU are the Cat? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #347

why elaborate? what I said is hardly ambiguous. cali Nov 2014 #367

RIGHT.....sure you are..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #369

Nice word salad. BeanMusical Nov 2014 #116

Like you blend..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #355

Lol! BeanMusical Nov 2014 #391

Your post sums up the problem with the DEmocratic Party today. Winning is more important rhett o rick Nov 2014 #19

Right...the entire Democratic Party is "chiefly British"? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #31

You'd be more service to HIllary if you made sense. RiverLover Nov 2014 #34

easy...that word...is used "chiefly" by the British....meaning VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #37

If you say so. This does explain alot though!! RiverLover Nov 2014 #43

YES it certainly does..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #54

you and I don't associate with the same people. I know a lot of educated liberals cali Nov 2014 #63

Most...but not all.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #96

You remind me of baseball fans, not from NY, that cheer for the Yankees LiberalLovinLug Nov 2014 #118

Not a Baseball fan.....I am a fan of Politics.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #122

Please post links to these "polls" Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #78

Oh you doubt my power of poll numbers ? BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #112

Your "power"??? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #134

and who do YOU have that can claim that or better? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #135

Multiple polls that break down nearly the same Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #144

AND my multiple historical trend polls show YOU wrong! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #360

Given a Clinton or Romney choice I would flip a coin. obxhead Nov 2014 #187

Yep. Pretty sad that a carpetbagging, former NY Senator, Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #190

Worse is those supplying the indefensible obxhead Nov 2014 #192

So perhaps you can answer a question that I MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #80

"any analysis or criticism of their heroine" William769 Nov 2014 #11

I think "Damn Yankee" is appropriate. They are willing to sell their souls to win. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #21

I did post plenty of evidence for support.....but of course you can't read that... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #38

Apparently my post is being taken the wrong way (I worded it wrong). William769 Nov 2014 #44

OH...OK....then I misunderstood.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #48

LOL, ok, I get it now, You will defend ANYTHING she has done. nt Logical Nov 2014 #15

No...I defend her record... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #39

Hmmmmm........All that is missing are the Blue Links. Hmmmmmmmm! nt Logical Nov 2014 #56

Oh I HAVE them....want to see...How about to her ACTUAL words VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #67

over the last year or so, there seems to be a backlash against evidence on DU wyldwolf Nov 2014 #152

No, just posting link does not proof make. Get it yet? So I should just post a long list of links... Logical Nov 2014 #216

Much more so than your 'truthiness.' wyldwolf Nov 2014 #219

No, there is more to a candidate than their votes. Well, except for Hillary maybe. I will tell all.. Logical Nov 2014 #221

Again logical is being illogical by relying on editorials as proof wyldwolf Nov 2014 #223

Get ready for disappointment. Actually, it will be entertaining to watch. Even her pulling herself.. Logical Nov 2014 #225

Can I quote you on that in a few months?0 wyldwolf Nov 2014 #233

Yes! Bookmark any post where I claim it. I would expect an "I told you so" post from you. nt Logical Nov 2014 #239

If she wins the nomination there's going to be either... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #20

I grant you it will be hard to defeat the Oligarch's Democratic candidate. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #22

Not for those who WILL agree to vote for whomever wins the nomination in our primary election VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #50

I think she'll win the nomination and lose the GE. It will be interesting to see the crow cali Nov 2014 #64

You're not voting for her either way. I'm sure you'll enjoy your vacation from DU wyldwolf Nov 2014 #69

I think discussionist is more for you conservative types cali Nov 2014 #72

I won't be throwing bombs at the Democratic nominee. That's your leisure activity wyldwolf Nov 2014 #77

Wow. Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #169

"I won't vote for HIllary if she's the nominee. and yeah, I'll gladly leave DU for the duration. " Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #256

Me too! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #357

YES! Let the purge begin! Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #81

Since you'e (supposedly) new here, I'll let you in on something wyldwolf Nov 2014 #87

Are you a ToS Nazi? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #148

Yeah! I am! LOL wyldwolf Nov 2014 #149

And if she loses, the left (and it's media) will be proven an indispensible constituency? Marr Nov 2014 #145

And if the 'progressive' Dem wins, it means... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #146

Remind me again-- what sort of Dems got spanked a couple of weeks ago? Marr Nov 2014 #154

How many "progressive" Dems ran in red states... remind me again? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #156

I don't "hate" MIC-Clinton, I just will never support anyone that sells out the American rhett o rick Nov 2014 #28

So we should support someone who sold out to ISIS? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #155

There's an implication there somewhere but I guess I just don't get it. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #158

Since I see Warren on your post perhaps you should find out why she is Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #168

I thought we were talking about "A Hawk Named Hillary." rhett o rick Nov 2014 #198

It should have been important to sitting senators also, the action voted on is current Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #206

We were discussing Hillary the Hawk. Now I don't know where you are. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #217

Let's say this, I much prefer to have what you describe as a hawk than someone unable to take a Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #228

"Hillary can make the hard decision" Problem is that decision seems to favor the 1%. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #264

Speaking of status quo, I do support the status quo, BTW, Warren's excuse as to why she voted no is Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #265

Really? obxhead Nov 2014 #268

Funny thing, I have not changed my values, I still support the values I have enjoyed in my lifetime Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #269

You can support the status quo with Wall Street CEO's getting super wealthy and rhett o rick Nov 2014 #278

Where have i said I "support the Wall Street CEO's getting super wealthy? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #298

I think they were trying to say you wanted McCain. obxhead Nov 2014 #267

No they are trying to disparage Sen Warren. Like anyone can compare to the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #275

Why do you think a random wall of slop means anything? TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #75

+1 cali Nov 2014 #294

No positions on domestic policy? Or were you just afraid to list them? A Simple Game Nov 2014 #108

Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record. (Dec 2003) LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #151

Thank you for putting so many of Hillary's bad foreign policy positions in one place. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #153

Still name calling without evidence - BS article bhikkhu Nov 2014 #17

"Hillary Inc. The Military-Industrial Candidate" RiverLover Nov 2014 #23

Yet if you look at her actions, she's no Kissinger bhikkhu Nov 2014 #25

Ok, please consider this~ RiverLover Nov 2014 #29

That's a good point, and a difficult problem to rely upon ideals to solve bhikkhu Nov 2014 #271

Well said. You definitely know your stuff. RiverLover Nov 2014 #272

Her enthusiastic support of the Iraq War qualifies her right up there with rhett o rick Nov 2014 #32

She could and likely will three fold. obxhead Nov 2014 #191

. nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #60

Yep. Her good buddy the war criminal. BeanMusical Nov 2014 #121

I need a puke bag, stat! LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #182

It will be difficult to defeat the Oligarch's candidate in the primary. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #24

Odds are all those ''Friends'' will abandon her once the General Election rolls around. Octafish Nov 2014 #33

I think you are correct. The Oligarchs decided that the American rhett o rick Nov 2014 #41

The Machine vs The Machine... Oustanding! Octafish Nov 2014 #65

She sides with the Warmongers. Octafish Nov 2014 #27

live on tape nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #79

That's pretty fucked up. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #93

Hillary Clinton - great on tact, diplomacy and common sense. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #170

That is right. Honduras, Haiti - all under the rug. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #167

Reinforcing, yet again, my personal vow... 99Forever Nov 2014 #35

A Hawk Named Roosevelt wyldwolf Nov 2014 #42

That must have been back when we weren't fighting for oil & Halliburton profits. ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #46

so you're going on the record as saying wars over Democratic ideals are acceptable? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #52

You aren't worth it & I'm not in the mood today. RiverLover Nov 2014 #58

Yeah, that's what I thought wyldwolf Nov 2014 #61

Your first link is: An Ann Coulter-like fake opposition book, GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #181

But the second link isn't. Nor are other sources wyldwolf Nov 2014 #185

He wants to dig all the way to China. Rex Nov 2014 #295

It would appear Anatol Lieven is quiet hawhish in his analysis of someone who has not Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #47

As if Hillary not announcing as yet has stopped her fans from attacking anyone who says djean111 Nov 2014 #305

Hey, the name of the thread was Hillary is hawkish, I see the author as hawkish Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #306

What does that have to do with your opinion that the author should not research Hillary because she djean111 Nov 2014 #308

All she needs is a smirk and some cowboy boots in her ensemble. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #57

Hope yellowwoodII Nov 2014 #62

Combine Hawkishness with Dominionist and you have a fine recipe for mayhem and hardship LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #70

She won't win... SoapBox Nov 2014 #83

yep, as you can see, some love their war hawks, others don't stupidicus Nov 2014 #86

Her lurch to the right, is the reason I am supporting to the end, Bernie Sanders TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #92

Relax America, you got the cool black guy, now we'll give you the woman... polichick Nov 2014 #110

Insulting stereotypes, sounds very republican. ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #114

Yes, RepubliCons are serving up these candidates. polichick Nov 2014 #119

I'm so weary of war LittleBlue Nov 2014 #132

The only reason I'd like to see her prevail libodem Nov 2014 #139

The "supposedly more hawkish instincts of much of the electorate" is more than a supposition. cheapdate Nov 2014 #164

Seems like two choices probably, pro war, pro wall street pro choice, or pro war pro wall street NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #177

No Hillary, no way! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #179

Tom Tomorrow 'The trouble with Hillary Ichingcarpenter Nov 2014 #180

good one. I saved that to my file. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #186

Wow Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #358

knr - a sensible and well balanced common sense analysis Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #195

Hillary represents the perfect marriage of arrogance and incompetence. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #197

I think this tough act has a lot to do with over compensation LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #209

Thatcher was politically competent though. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #247

Ouch! LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #273

Every single Hillary supporter should read this piece and be informed 2banon Nov 2014 #230

She's always made me uneasy. She started out a Republican, and I haven't trusted her since. catbyte Nov 2014 #242

Hillary scares the hell out of me. Anonymous Martyr Nov 2014 #279

Better than a "Dove" named Rand Derek V Nov 2014 #288

Here is the situation, if Ms. Clinton runs and she is the nominee, akbacchus_BC Nov 2014 #289

Pro War, Pro Wall Street, Pro Choice, or Pro Wall Street, Pro War, ANTI choice...up to you NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #356

admittedly DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #389

Vote for Hillary, The BORG candidate!!!! Kilgore Nov 2014 #297