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frylock

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59. at what point prior to martin being directly confronted by zimmerman..

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:37 PM

Apr 2012

was he justified in escalation of force? you don't know, and neither do i. but to dismiss the fact that trayvon was obviously concerned for his saftey, as has been reported by his girlfriend who was having a conversation with him over the phone while he was being followed, is utter bullshit.

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About Zimmy's skull. [View all] WingDinger Apr 2012 OP

There's no blood on the back of the t-shirt...none, if he was hit with a blooded blow uponit7771 Apr 2012 #1

You have no legal right to attack people who annoy you Taitertots Apr 2012 #2

I differ. If some punk thought himself judge and jury WingDinger Apr 2012 #4

More likely, you would be dead and he would be legally justified in killing you Taitertots Apr 2012 #9

Z caused this wholly anticipated course of events. WingDinger Apr 2012 #12

No wait... What happened to the line of discussion started with post #4 Taitertots Apr 2012 #19

I switched to Zimmy logic. There is NO utility to Zimmy's further stalking. WingDinger Apr 2012 #25

You didn't address why you would not just call the police SATIRical Apr 2012 #56

Cuz I was running? Or didnt have a cell? WingDinger Apr 2012 #58

Martin had a cell phone SATIRical Apr 2012 #66

So, Martin had a DUTY to call cops and wait for them to respond, but Zimmy can hunt his prey just fi WingDinger Apr 2012 #85

Yes SATIRical Apr 2012 #98

Because ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #80

And so did the provocatively dressed whore who got raped. joeglow3 Apr 2012 #63

Phuck that...even if there was a scuffle you DON'T KNOW joeybee12 Apr 2012 #7

That too. WingDinger Apr 2012 #13

a kid is walking home from the store...minding his own business noiretextatique Apr 2012 #67

How about people who stalk and terrify you ... alone, in the rain polly7 Apr 2012 #10

No reasonable person could take Zimmerman's actions to indicate.... Taitertots Apr 2012 #14

Were you there? polly7 Apr 2012 #15

I think you have a typo in your post Taitertots Apr 2012 #17

Why yes .......... yes I do. nt. polly7 Apr 2012 #21

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #83

In these days of young people disappearing and being found much later dead, or not shraby Apr 2012 #52

Bull Shit ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #18

I know it is totally bullshit... Taitertots Apr 2012 #28

zimmerman's ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #37

I have yet to see any evidence presented to support your claim... Taitertots Apr 2012 #41

I think we ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #50

Martin's girlfriend isn't claiming Martin said Zimmerman was brandishing Taitertots Apr 2012 #57

the girlfriend did tell him to run noiretextatique Apr 2012 #74

What about ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #81

unless the detainee is black, apparently noiretextatique Apr 2012 #89

you mean like Zimmerman did fascisthunter Apr 2012 #55

Are you out of your mind? EOTE Apr 2012 #42

Do you have x-ray glass? I can't see who has a concealed weapon Taitertots Apr 2012 #49

Yeah, so the boy who was shot dead by a vigilante mad man had no reason to fear. EOTE Apr 2012 #51

ridiculous assertions by this one noiretextatique Apr 2012 #70

That's exactly what he's suggesting. EOTE Apr 2012 #71

it is sickening...especially here noiretextatique Apr 2012 #75

you'll notice this poster has been called out as racist in this thread.. frylock Apr 2012 #78

LOL...just did that myself noiretextatique Apr 2012 #90

Some things are just too obvious to deny. NT EOTE Apr 2012 #97

really? how was Trayvon to know who was stalking him? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #69

"For all he knew" doesn't meet any of the legal standards for self-defense Taitertots Apr 2012 #72

the only person who says Trayvon initiated physical contact is zimmerman noiretextatique Apr 2012 #73

Bull shit! Trayvon probably thought he was a child molester Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #87

If Zimmerman had been killed in the altercation and Trayvon were now on trial, there could be... JVS Apr 2012 #100

Screams for help were NOT Zmans, forensics already done on voice....blows holes uponit7771 Apr 2012 #11

Yes, that little tidbit of evidence CLEARLY shows that blowing a hole in T's chest was vengeance for WingDinger Apr 2012 #16

IF Trayvon had a gun Horse with no Name Apr 2012 #20

You are expressing clear ignorance of the SYG laws Taitertots Apr 2012 #22

And if fake cop vigilante brandished the weapon, to detain suspicious person? WingDinger Apr 2012 #27

I don't carry, I live in a nice community Taitertots Apr 2012 #30

Bully for you being able to afford a nice location. WingDinger Apr 2012 #31

I Think He Was Referring To Its Ethnic And Racial Composition But I Will Let Him Or Her Answer It DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #35

indeed.. frylock Apr 2012 #65

What Makes It Nice In Your Opinion? Is It The Racial And Ethnic Composition Of Its Residents ? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #34

Low crime rate, decent economic prospects, public services... n/t Taitertots Apr 2012 #40

This is exactly why your ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #39

word frylock Apr 2012 #79

Are you "forgetting" ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #38

What makes you then think that Trayvon's actions were threatening? He's the one who ended up dead. shraby Apr 2012 #53

my buddy was "annoyed" by a group of men in a car while he was riding his skateboard home.. frylock Apr 2012 #24

My grandfather was murdered by a gang that was taking revenge on the first white person they encoun WingDinger Apr 2012 #29

They followed him briefly before slowly driving past and accelerating to speed Taitertots Apr 2012 #43

at what point prior to martin being directly confronted by zimmerman.. frylock Apr 2012 #59

When Zimmerman's actions cause a reasonable fear of death or Grievous Injury Taitertots Apr 2012 #62

look, it's obvious that you're gonna go to the mat for zimmerman.. frylock Apr 2012 #64

Of course you are done... Taitertots Apr 2012 #68

no, i'm done with you because you can't seem to grasp a very simple concept.. frylock Apr 2012 #77

sorry...following someone in a car noiretextatique Apr 2012 #76

Being scared and having legal and/or moral justification are two different things Taitertots Apr 2012 #82

IF he started the fight noiretextatique Apr 2012 #86

How is ending a fight with a gun a reasonable thing to do? Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #92

apparently unarmed black, male teenagers noiretextatique Apr 2012 #93

We already know Zimmerman is violent and has a short fuse Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #96

The moment Zimmerman touched Martin, he was assaulting Martin. jeff47 Apr 2012 #95

No, that was the moment Zimmy committed battery obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #101

Assault when he reached, battery when he made contact jeff47 Apr 2012 #102

Fakest blood drips ever. FarLeftFist Apr 2012 #3

Why are you afraid of a few drops of blood? WingDinger Apr 2012 #5

From the beginning, before the police video was released... Daalalou Apr 2012 #6

Nope, but to deny it is blood, out of hand, or that cops doctored it, is reactionary. WingDinger Apr 2012 #8

Nonsense. 99Forever Apr 2012 #23

Gullible enough to wait for chain of evidence. WingDinger Apr 2012 #33

"chain of evidence".... 99Forever Apr 2012 #44

No kidding! Rex Apr 2012 #46

they look like scrapes or "road rash" frylock Apr 2012 #26

Yes, if T punched Z's fool head, while fool was on back, road rash. WingDinger Apr 2012 #32

Agree 100%. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #94

You are justified in standing your ground when you have a reasonable fear of imminent injury/death slackmaster Apr 2012 #36

If you want to believe a fake picture then go ahead. Rex Apr 2012 #45

Um, if you were to fake a pic, to gin up your testimony, wouldnt you apply more blood WingDinger Apr 2012 #47

Sound like you might. Rex Apr 2012 #48

That story has so many holes in it. If T was covering Z's mouth, how could he be the one appleannie1 Apr 2012 #54

yuppers WingDinger Apr 2012 #60

They are trying hard to find a way to hide the truth. Rex Apr 2012 #61

I don't think the cuts look bad at all. I once hit my head on the edge of the cabinet and Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #84

My baloney meter says to me that Zimmerman [not Zimmy] is being framed ... GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #88

yep noiretextatique Apr 2012 #91

Flashing a firearm in Florida to gain advantage in an encounter ... spin Apr 2012 #99