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In reply to the discussion: A Hawk Named Hillary [View all]VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)332. One bullet point...so did ALOT of Americans at the time...but ignore everything else right?
Hillary Clinton on the Iraq War
I got it wrong on 2002 Iraq War vote. (Jun 2014)
2007: I'm most qualified to end war in Iraq. (Jan 2010)
2007: Opposed funding Iraq War; no escalation. (Aug 2009)
2002: Saddam gave aid to Al Qaeda terrorists. (Oct 2008)
Up to the Iraqis to decide the future they will have. (Feb 2008)
Leaving 130,000 troops in Iraq is irresponsible abdication. (Jan 2008)
Have nearly all combat troops out in a year. (Jan 2008)
Cant leave Iraq safely without a plan. (Jan 2008)
Cant let the Iraqis think the US will be there forever. (Jan 2008)
Voted against precedent of US subordinate to UN in Iraq. (Jan 2008)
Iraq war authorization was not authority for preemption. (Jan 2008)
Told by the White House how the war resolution would be used. (Jan 2008)
Withdrawing troops is dangerous, including 100,000 civilians. (Jan 2008)
No military solution in Iraq; this debate motivates solution. (Jan 2008)
Called war on terror Bushs war but has played active role. (Nov 2007)
2002: Accepted connection between Saddam & Al Qaeda. (Nov 2007)
Leave combat troops in Iraq only for conterterrorism. (Sep 2007)
No funding that does not move us toward withdrawal. (Sep 2007)
Push Pentagon to start planning for Iraq withdrawal. (Aug 2007)
Redeploy responsibly, with regional diplomatic effort. (Aug 2007)
Pentagon calls her unpatriotic for asking about exit plan. (Jul 2007)
Deauthorize Iraq war, and dont grant new war authority. (Jun 2007)
Phased redeployment, not irresponsible immediate withdrawal. (Jun 2007)
Bush misused authorization for war. (Jun 2007)
The Iraq war is Bushs war. (Jun 2007)
Iraq war wouldnt have happened had the inspectors been sent. (Jun 2007)
It was a mistake to trust Bush on his judgment to wage war. (Jun 2007)
This war is up to Iraqi people to win or lose, not the US. (Apr 2007)
No permanent bases, but continuing residual force in Iraq. (Apr 2007)
Online petition to pressure Bush & GOP for redeployment. (Apr 2007)
Takes responsibility for Iraq war vote, but not a mistake. (Feb 2007)
Cap troops in Iraq and no more blank check for war. (Feb 2007)
Cut off funds for Iraqi use, but not for troops. (Jan 2007)
Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately. (Oct 2006)
OpEd: Voting for war enabled criticizing how it was waged. (Oct 2005)
I got it wrong on 2002 Iraq War vote. (Jun 2014)
2007: I'm most qualified to end war in Iraq. (Jan 2010)
2007: Opposed funding Iraq War; no escalation. (Aug 2009)
2002: Saddam gave aid to Al Qaeda terrorists. (Oct 2008)
Up to the Iraqis to decide the future they will have. (Feb 2008)
Leaving 130,000 troops in Iraq is irresponsible abdication. (Jan 2008)
Have nearly all combat troops out in a year. (Jan 2008)
Cant leave Iraq safely without a plan. (Jan 2008)
Cant let the Iraqis think the US will be there forever. (Jan 2008)
Voted against precedent of US subordinate to UN in Iraq. (Jan 2008)
Iraq war authorization was not authority for preemption. (Jan 2008)
Told by the White House how the war resolution would be used. (Jan 2008)
Withdrawing troops is dangerous, including 100,000 civilians. (Jan 2008)
No military solution in Iraq; this debate motivates solution. (Jan 2008)
Called war on terror Bushs war but has played active role. (Nov 2007)
2002: Accepted connection between Saddam & Al Qaeda. (Nov 2007)
Leave combat troops in Iraq only for conterterrorism. (Sep 2007)
No funding that does not move us toward withdrawal. (Sep 2007)
Push Pentagon to start planning for Iraq withdrawal. (Aug 2007)
Redeploy responsibly, with regional diplomatic effort. (Aug 2007)
Pentagon calls her unpatriotic for asking about exit plan. (Jul 2007)
Deauthorize Iraq war, and dont grant new war authority. (Jun 2007)
Phased redeployment, not irresponsible immediate withdrawal. (Jun 2007)
Bush misused authorization for war. (Jun 2007)
The Iraq war is Bushs war. (Jun 2007)
Iraq war wouldnt have happened had the inspectors been sent. (Jun 2007)
It was a mistake to trust Bush on his judgment to wage war. (Jun 2007)
This war is up to Iraqi people to win or lose, not the US. (Apr 2007)
No permanent bases, but continuing residual force in Iraq. (Apr 2007)
Online petition to pressure Bush & GOP for redeployment. (Apr 2007)
Takes responsibility for Iraq war vote, but not a mistake. (Feb 2007)
Cap troops in Iraq and no more blank check for war. (Feb 2007)
Cut off funds for Iraqi use, but not for troops. (Jan 2007)
Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately. (Oct 2006)
OpEd: Voting for war enabled criticizing how it was waged. (Oct 2005)
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Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. She's not for me, thanks.
Scuba
Nov 2014
#1
This cartoon shows Obama, but he's really an icon for the entire Democratic Party.
CrispyQ
Nov 2014
#314
HRC - Too Conservative For Democrats - Too Liberal For Republicans - A Disaster Waiting To Happen
cantbeserious
Nov 2014
#252
"Wait and see"? If you haven't figured it out by now, I doubt you will change your mind. nm
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#12
Accepting the "lesser of evils" is what got us where we are. As long as the "people"
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#26
I can't speak for the others but I won't be happy until we have our democracy back.
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#49
YOU won't be happy until miracles happen.....YOU will NEVER be happy.....
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#51
I posted the dictionary definition for you, 'nilly. I used the word absolutely and indubitably
cali
Nov 2014
#98
and silly....I pointed out....that in the dictionary it says it is "chiefly British"
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#100
what is your point, nilly? and YOU are the one that made a big deal out of my (correct) use
cali
Nov 2014
#107
I have always been a Democrat that supports the 99%. In the past years the
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#66
Do you think that Democrats blindly follow? That's not Democrats. I will never support
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#104
Its not blindly following when WE decide who WE want as leader in an ELECTION called a Primary
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#106
then to go around constantly criticizing and demanding others not to support her....
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#120
When you say "We" you are including the Oligarchs. I do not include myself
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#117
NO you are NOT part of that "WE" because you are a Left Leaning Independent...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#312
Get in line behind the person that polls at 64% and who polls beating all Republicans
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#199
I have and so have 64% of the Democratic party.....all the others have not gotten out of
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#207
NO its not....I have a Clear Trend across ALL polls...and YOU were abosofuckinglutely wrong!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#319
You know that the only qualification for being a Democrat, by your definition
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#189
The "qualification" is a pledge to VOTE for the Primary candidate the Democrats select
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#200
My agenda is to get a Democrat elected to the Presidency in 2016....therefore I support
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#202
One more thing.....YOU still do not get to decide for US Democrats....WE have an election
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#313
and why do Left Leaning Independents think they know what a Democrat is?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#350
FACTS are FACTS...if you are NOT pledging to vote for OUR winner of OUR Democratic Primary
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#318
Maybe you do not understand my version of English - YOU are not entitled to demand
djean111
Nov 2014
#337
Actually is called BEING a Democrat...WALKING the WALK....you see...that is how
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#345
Well, it looks like we have not collectively decided on anyone as yet, right?
djean111
Nov 2014
#349
Right but we can be deciding to support OUR collective decision....YOU don't
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#364
Well, Ms/Mr Decider, it matter not one whit what you call me, really. Irrelevant.
djean111
Nov 2014
#371
ARE you pledging to vote for WHOMEVER the Democrats select in their Primary Election?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#375
Of course you do....BUT if you cannot make that pledge...you are a Left-Leaning Independent
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#201
It doesn't matter what you think about them....its the definition of the term...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#205
Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. Yes, those are right-wing.
Scuba
Nov 2014
#97
Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. Which of these ....
Scuba
Nov 2014
#101
Please provide quotes and then we can put YOUR positions on a scale next to the stacked mountain
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#102
One bullet point...so did ALOT of Americans at the time...but ignore everything else right?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#332
It took her twelve years to admit she got it wrong. I knew it was wrong on day one. Further....
Scuba
Nov 2014
#379
and that means diddly squat....in comparison to the bulk of her record!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#382
that is ONE bullet point....and blindly ignore all the rest of the bullet points....
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#140
Of course you don't...those are her actual words in bullet point...and it might screw with your
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#283
Obnoxious and Spam only because it knocks YOUR narrative out of the water!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#281
Yeah that's all swell but she actively promoted the Neocon I-War. She gave speeches trying to
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#277
spam, 'nilly, spam! and read your own spam. it demonstrates how right wing and militaristic
cali
Nov 2014
#292
Actually it is the FAR Left and Left Leaning Independents that are upset THEY didn't get their
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#284
OH I sooooo agree with you.....they already think acting like Teabaggers is working for them
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#324
What got us here is the SCOTUS in 2000. Also I do not ever remember thinking of President Obama
jwirr
Nov 2014
#45
How is SHE the lesser of two evils when SHE is to the Left of BOTH of those examples...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#325
You just can't help yourself can you? "You have even less honesty and integrity"
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#340
OHHHHHH now "I" have less honesty and integrity.....well let me just show you why YOU are wrong!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#342
OH? And you call yourself a Democrat? A Democrat that thinks that a Hillary Clinton President
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#328
lol. the adorers flip the fuck out over any analysis or criticism of their heroine.
cali
Nov 2014
#7
actually, just because YOU are ignorant of a word, that doesn't mean it isn't a real word.
cali
Nov 2014
#10
Easy Peasy...if you had been following this conversation from the beggining instead of jumping
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#137
LOL! I knew that poster would be in this thread. It's like a moth to flames
neverforget
Nov 2014
#193
LOL ,says the poster that has whined numerous times in the is thread. Are you just fucking with us?
Logical
Nov 2014
#218
Hillary is luck to have you on this board. She will need some support come next year. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#222
Yes, I get a lot done, my job is to post links to stories that support my views......
Logical
Nov 2014
#226
PM me and I will order you a subscription to the Nation. It is $18 well spent. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#240
Want me to post some links to some of their liberal articles to prove they are liberal?? nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#248
Why would you do that? I know they're liberal, thus, they have a liberal bias
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#251
OK, so you are claiming "The Nation" = "Fox News", LOL, I have read all I need to read. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#258
No, that is the takr away I got from your discussion. The Nation = Fox News. And worst....
Logical
Nov 2014
#262
This primary election season will be fun because of you! Pure entertainment. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#351
Oh no I am not....Lets just see why I'm not shall we? From YOUR link...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#362
No I didn't.... you see that is what the POINT is.....ARE you pledging to vote for OUR choice?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#368
then you are a hypocrite.....YOU are disparaging her reputation with false statements about
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#376
LOL, the OTHER Democrats in the primary will be trashing her! Like she trashed Obama! You are....
Logical
Nov 2014
#383
Can't wait for when there are actually declared candidates.....this is going to be
neverforget
Nov 2014
#387
bzzzzt Cali Fail.....Where do you think Bernie Sanders will be getting his support AFTER he
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#377
A 2nd response to the same post? LOL, took a while to come up with something partially clever? nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#232
who whinges? Chiefly British....from YOUR link....I am not British?.....Is the poster who used it?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#30
Your post sums up the problem with the DEmocratic Party today. Winning is more important
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#19
You remind me of baseball fans, not from NY, that cheer for the Yankees
LiberalLovinLug
Nov 2014
#118
I think "Damn Yankee" is appropriate. They are willing to sell their souls to win. nm
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#21
I did post plenty of evidence for support.....but of course you can't read that...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#38
over the last year or so, there seems to be a backlash against evidence on DU
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#152
No, just posting link does not proof make. Get it yet? So I should just post a long list of links...
Logical
Nov 2014
#216
No, there is more to a candidate than their votes. Well, except for Hillary maybe. I will tell all..
Logical
Nov 2014
#221
Get ready for disappointment. Actually, it will be entertaining to watch. Even her pulling herself..
Logical
Nov 2014
#225
Yes! Bookmark any post where I claim it. I would expect an "I told you so" post from you. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#239
I grant you it will be hard to defeat the Oligarch's Democratic candidate. nm
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#22
Not for those who WILL agree to vote for whomever wins the nomination in our primary election
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#50
I think she'll win the nomination and lose the GE. It will be interesting to see the crow
cali
Nov 2014
#64
You're not voting for her either way. I'm sure you'll enjoy your vacation from DU
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#69
I won't be throwing bombs at the Democratic nominee. That's your leisure activity
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#77
"I won't vote for HIllary if she's the nominee. and yeah, I'll gladly leave DU for the duration. "
Rhinodawg
Nov 2014
#256
And if she loses, the left (and it's media) will be proven an indispensible constituency?
Marr
Nov 2014
#145
I don't "hate" MIC-Clinton, I just will never support anyone that sells out the American
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#28
It should have been important to sitting senators also, the action voted on is current
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#206
Let's say this, I much prefer to have what you describe as a hawk than someone unable to take a
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#228
"Hillary can make the hard decision" Problem is that decision seems to favor the 1%.
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#264
Speaking of status quo, I do support the status quo, BTW, Warren's excuse as to why she voted no is
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#265
Funny thing, I have not changed my values, I still support the values I have enjoyed in my lifetime
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#269
You can support the status quo with Wall Street CEO's getting super wealthy and
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#278
Where have i said I "support the Wall Street CEO's getting super wealthy?
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#298
No they are trying to disparage Sen Warren. Like anyone can compare to the
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#275
Thank you for putting so many of Hillary's bad foreign policy positions in one place.
Comrade Grumpy
Nov 2014
#153
Her enthusiastic support of the Iraq War qualifies her right up there with
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#32
Odds are all those ''Friends'' will abandon her once the General Election rolls around.
Octafish
Nov 2014
#33
That must have been back when we weren't fighting for oil & Halliburton profits. ~nt
RiverLover
Nov 2014
#46
so you're going on the record as saying wars over Democratic ideals are acceptable?
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#52
It would appear Anatol Lieven is quiet hawhish in his analysis of someone who has not
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#47
As if Hillary not announcing as yet has stopped her fans from attacking anyone who says
djean111
Nov 2014
#305
Hey, the name of the thread was Hillary is hawkish, I see the author as hawkish
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#306
What does that have to do with your opinion that the author should not research Hillary because she
djean111
Nov 2014
#308
Combine Hawkishness with Dominionist and you have a fine recipe for mayhem and hardship
LawDeeDah
Nov 2014
#70
Her lurch to the right, is the reason I am supporting to the end, Bernie Sanders
TheNutcracker
Nov 2014
#92
The "supposedly more hawkish instincts of much of the electorate" is more than a supposition.
cheapdate
Nov 2014
#164
Seems like two choices probably, pro war, pro wall street pro choice, or pro war pro wall street
NoJusticeNoPeace
Nov 2014
#177
She's always made me uneasy. She started out a Republican, and I haven't trusted her since.
catbyte
Nov 2014
#242
Pro War, Pro Wall Street, Pro Choice, or Pro Wall Street, Pro War, ANTI choice...up to you
NoJusticeNoPeace
Nov 2014
#356