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In reply to the discussion: A Hawk Named Hillary [View all]Logical
(22,457 posts)361. You must be confused by the word "primary". Read about it. There will be.....
many candidates running besides Hillary. I am sure in your mind she is the only candidate so you have jumped to the general election already but that is not how it works.
Here is a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_primary
Sorry, I assumed you knew about the primary part.
And I have told you many times I would votes democratic winner no matter how terrible a candidate they are. So yes, I would vote for Hillary if she wins.
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Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. She's not for me, thanks.
Scuba
Nov 2014
#1
This cartoon shows Obama, but he's really an icon for the entire Democratic Party.
CrispyQ
Nov 2014
#314
HRC - Too Conservative For Democrats - Too Liberal For Republicans - A Disaster Waiting To Happen
cantbeserious
Nov 2014
#252
"Wait and see"? If you haven't figured it out by now, I doubt you will change your mind. nm
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#12
Accepting the "lesser of evils" is what got us where we are. As long as the "people"
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#26
I can't speak for the others but I won't be happy until we have our democracy back.
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#49
YOU won't be happy until miracles happen.....YOU will NEVER be happy.....
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#51
I posted the dictionary definition for you, 'nilly. I used the word absolutely and indubitably
cali
Nov 2014
#98
and silly....I pointed out....that in the dictionary it says it is "chiefly British"
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#100
what is your point, nilly? and YOU are the one that made a big deal out of my (correct) use
cali
Nov 2014
#107
I have always been a Democrat that supports the 99%. In the past years the
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#66
Do you think that Democrats blindly follow? That's not Democrats. I will never support
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#104
Its not blindly following when WE decide who WE want as leader in an ELECTION called a Primary
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#106
then to go around constantly criticizing and demanding others not to support her....
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#120
When you say "We" you are including the Oligarchs. I do not include myself
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#117
NO you are NOT part of that "WE" because you are a Left Leaning Independent...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#312
Get in line behind the person that polls at 64% and who polls beating all Republicans
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#199
I have and so have 64% of the Democratic party.....all the others have not gotten out of
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#207
NO its not....I have a Clear Trend across ALL polls...and YOU were abosofuckinglutely wrong!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#319
You know that the only qualification for being a Democrat, by your definition
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#189
The "qualification" is a pledge to VOTE for the Primary candidate the Democrats select
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#200
My agenda is to get a Democrat elected to the Presidency in 2016....therefore I support
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#202
One more thing.....YOU still do not get to decide for US Democrats....WE have an election
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#313
and why do Left Leaning Independents think they know what a Democrat is?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#350
FACTS are FACTS...if you are NOT pledging to vote for OUR winner of OUR Democratic Primary
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#318
Maybe you do not understand my version of English - YOU are not entitled to demand
djean111
Nov 2014
#337
Actually is called BEING a Democrat...WALKING the WALK....you see...that is how
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#345
Well, it looks like we have not collectively decided on anyone as yet, right?
djean111
Nov 2014
#349
Right but we can be deciding to support OUR collective decision....YOU don't
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#364
Well, Ms/Mr Decider, it matter not one whit what you call me, really. Irrelevant.
djean111
Nov 2014
#371
ARE you pledging to vote for WHOMEVER the Democrats select in their Primary Election?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#375
Of course you do....BUT if you cannot make that pledge...you are a Left-Leaning Independent
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#201
It doesn't matter what you think about them....its the definition of the term...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#205
Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. Yes, those are right-wing.
Scuba
Nov 2014
#97
Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. Which of these ....
Scuba
Nov 2014
#101
Please provide quotes and then we can put YOUR positions on a scale next to the stacked mountain
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#102
One bullet point...so did ALOT of Americans at the time...but ignore everything else right?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#332
It took her twelve years to admit she got it wrong. I knew it was wrong on day one. Further....
Scuba
Nov 2014
#379
and that means diddly squat....in comparison to the bulk of her record!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#382
that is ONE bullet point....and blindly ignore all the rest of the bullet points....
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#140
Of course you don't...those are her actual words in bullet point...and it might screw with your
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#283
Obnoxious and Spam only because it knocks YOUR narrative out of the water!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#281
Yeah that's all swell but she actively promoted the Neocon I-War. She gave speeches trying to
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#277
spam, 'nilly, spam! and read your own spam. it demonstrates how right wing and militaristic
cali
Nov 2014
#292
Actually it is the FAR Left and Left Leaning Independents that are upset THEY didn't get their
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#284
OH I sooooo agree with you.....they already think acting like Teabaggers is working for them
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#324
What got us here is the SCOTUS in 2000. Also I do not ever remember thinking of President Obama
jwirr
Nov 2014
#45
How is SHE the lesser of two evils when SHE is to the Left of BOTH of those examples...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#325
You just can't help yourself can you? "You have even less honesty and integrity"
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#340
OHHHHHH now "I" have less honesty and integrity.....well let me just show you why YOU are wrong!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#342
OH? And you call yourself a Democrat? A Democrat that thinks that a Hillary Clinton President
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#328
lol. the adorers flip the fuck out over any analysis or criticism of their heroine.
cali
Nov 2014
#7
actually, just because YOU are ignorant of a word, that doesn't mean it isn't a real word.
cali
Nov 2014
#10
Easy Peasy...if you had been following this conversation from the beggining instead of jumping
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#137
LOL! I knew that poster would be in this thread. It's like a moth to flames
neverforget
Nov 2014
#193
LOL ,says the poster that has whined numerous times in the is thread. Are you just fucking with us?
Logical
Nov 2014
#218
Hillary is luck to have you on this board. She will need some support come next year. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#222
Yes, I get a lot done, my job is to post links to stories that support my views......
Logical
Nov 2014
#226
PM me and I will order you a subscription to the Nation. It is $18 well spent. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#240
Want me to post some links to some of their liberal articles to prove they are liberal?? nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#248
Why would you do that? I know they're liberal, thus, they have a liberal bias
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#251
OK, so you are claiming "The Nation" = "Fox News", LOL, I have read all I need to read. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#258
No, that is the takr away I got from your discussion. The Nation = Fox News. And worst....
Logical
Nov 2014
#262
This primary election season will be fun because of you! Pure entertainment. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#351
Oh no I am not....Lets just see why I'm not shall we? From YOUR link...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#362
No I didn't.... you see that is what the POINT is.....ARE you pledging to vote for OUR choice?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#368
then you are a hypocrite.....YOU are disparaging her reputation with false statements about
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#376
LOL, the OTHER Democrats in the primary will be trashing her! Like she trashed Obama! You are....
Logical
Nov 2014
#383
Can't wait for when there are actually declared candidates.....this is going to be
neverforget
Nov 2014
#387
bzzzzt Cali Fail.....Where do you think Bernie Sanders will be getting his support AFTER he
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#377
A 2nd response to the same post? LOL, took a while to come up with something partially clever? nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#232
who whinges? Chiefly British....from YOUR link....I am not British?.....Is the poster who used it?
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#30
Your post sums up the problem with the DEmocratic Party today. Winning is more important
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#19
You remind me of baseball fans, not from NY, that cheer for the Yankees
LiberalLovinLug
Nov 2014
#118
I think "Damn Yankee" is appropriate. They are willing to sell their souls to win. nm
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#21
I did post plenty of evidence for support.....but of course you can't read that...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#38
over the last year or so, there seems to be a backlash against evidence on DU
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#152
No, just posting link does not proof make. Get it yet? So I should just post a long list of links...
Logical
Nov 2014
#216
No, there is more to a candidate than their votes. Well, except for Hillary maybe. I will tell all..
Logical
Nov 2014
#221
Get ready for disappointment. Actually, it will be entertaining to watch. Even her pulling herself..
Logical
Nov 2014
#225
Yes! Bookmark any post where I claim it. I would expect an "I told you so" post from you. nt
Logical
Nov 2014
#239
I grant you it will be hard to defeat the Oligarch's Democratic candidate. nm
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#22
Not for those who WILL agree to vote for whomever wins the nomination in our primary election
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#50
I think she'll win the nomination and lose the GE. It will be interesting to see the crow
cali
Nov 2014
#64
You're not voting for her either way. I'm sure you'll enjoy your vacation from DU
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#69
I won't be throwing bombs at the Democratic nominee. That's your leisure activity
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#77
"I won't vote for HIllary if she's the nominee. and yeah, I'll gladly leave DU for the duration. "
Rhinodawg
Nov 2014
#256
And if she loses, the left (and it's media) will be proven an indispensible constituency?
Marr
Nov 2014
#145
I don't "hate" MIC-Clinton, I just will never support anyone that sells out the American
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#28
It should have been important to sitting senators also, the action voted on is current
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#206
Let's say this, I much prefer to have what you describe as a hawk than someone unable to take a
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#228
"Hillary can make the hard decision" Problem is that decision seems to favor the 1%.
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#264
Speaking of status quo, I do support the status quo, BTW, Warren's excuse as to why she voted no is
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#265
Funny thing, I have not changed my values, I still support the values I have enjoyed in my lifetime
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#269
You can support the status quo with Wall Street CEO's getting super wealthy and
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#278
Where have i said I "support the Wall Street CEO's getting super wealthy?
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#298
No they are trying to disparage Sen Warren. Like anyone can compare to the
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#275
Thank you for putting so many of Hillary's bad foreign policy positions in one place.
Comrade Grumpy
Nov 2014
#153
Her enthusiastic support of the Iraq War qualifies her right up there with
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#32
Odds are all those ''Friends'' will abandon her once the General Election rolls around.
Octafish
Nov 2014
#33
That must have been back when we weren't fighting for oil & Halliburton profits. ~nt
RiverLover
Nov 2014
#46
so you're going on the record as saying wars over Democratic ideals are acceptable?
wyldwolf
Nov 2014
#52
It would appear Anatol Lieven is quiet hawhish in his analysis of someone who has not
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#47
As if Hillary not announcing as yet has stopped her fans from attacking anyone who says
djean111
Nov 2014
#305
Hey, the name of the thread was Hillary is hawkish, I see the author as hawkish
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#306
What does that have to do with your opinion that the author should not research Hillary because she
djean111
Nov 2014
#308
Combine Hawkishness with Dominionist and you have a fine recipe for mayhem and hardship
LawDeeDah
Nov 2014
#70
Her lurch to the right, is the reason I am supporting to the end, Bernie Sanders
TheNutcracker
Nov 2014
#92
The "supposedly more hawkish instincts of much of the electorate" is more than a supposition.
cheapdate
Nov 2014
#164
Seems like two choices probably, pro war, pro wall street pro choice, or pro war pro wall street
NoJusticeNoPeace
Nov 2014
#177
She's always made me uneasy. She started out a Republican, and I haven't trusted her since.
catbyte
Nov 2014
#242
Pro War, Pro Wall Street, Pro Choice, or Pro Wall Street, Pro War, ANTI choice...up to you
NoJusticeNoPeace
Nov 2014
#356