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Jackpine Radical

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62. Yes, the Establishment learned a lot from Vietnam--

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 06:44 PM

Nov 2014

Like, it's bad PR to show gritty pictures or, worse, videos, showing the brutal inhumanity of war. Instead, by GWI they had the whole war reportage with Schwartzkopf & his nightly briefings each featuring a high-altitude video that made the whole war look like a video game. People in redneck bars across the land would cheer videos showing the incineration of hundreds of antlike creatures on the ground, with no acknowledgment that those were human beings being horribly destroyed..

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What's wrong with American priorities? THIS... [View all] Triana Nov 2014 OP

It's a display of Traditional American Values. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #1

No it's not. Traditional American values were steeped in religion and civic duty Wella Nov 2014 #4

The operative word being "were"... truebluegreen Nov 2014 #24

You prefer consumerism? Wella Nov 2014 #25

Either / or? Are you saying those are our only choices? truebluegreen Nov 2014 #35

Only until after WWII Warpy Nov 2014 #28

Quite right, IMO. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2014 #51

Although consumerism grew after WWII, Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #52

OMG, Warpy. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #53

Amazing! Train people for 100 years to be acquisitive, money-grubbing, Nay Nov 2014 #2

As the posters above indicated, it's more like 60 years. whathehell Nov 2014 #31

we collectively handmade34 Nov 2014 #3

count me out Skittles Nov 2014 #9

ok... handmade34 Nov 2014 #11

easily manipulated people make me sick Skittles Nov 2014 #20

I'm with you on that. (nt) paleotn Nov 2014 #23

You and me both, sister shanti Nov 2014 #15

You, and me both Liberal Lolita Nov 2014 #40

There's an abstract and even more ominous side to these frenzies RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #16

I know two of those line-up-on-first-day nutcases Skittles Nov 2014 #19

I fear it's only a matter of time..... paleotn Nov 2014 #26

Did we get a glimpse of that after 9/11? Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #54

Yes. And there was an explicit connection made between patriotism and shopping. RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #55

And before Poppy's first Gulf war, the public, with memories of Vietnam yet green, Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #57

Thanks for the info. Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #58

Yes, the Establishment learned a lot from Vietnam-- Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #62

Reagan actually gave this approach a dry run with the invasion of Grenada RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #65

That is one aspect of Ted Cruz that scares me... Moostache Nov 2014 #56

A nation of sheep hifiguy Nov 2014 #5

Sounds like Pink Floyd's Animals album. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2014 #21

You ... well-heeled big wheel ... brett_jv Nov 2014 #36

we are a failed culture wrapped in a flag olddots Nov 2014 #6

+1 Triana Nov 2014 #7

An excellent and perfectly accurate summary hifiguy Nov 2014 #8

America is a consumers paradise. Democracy? Education? Rex Nov 2014 #10

Media consolidation and relaxed FCC licensing play a key role in this RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #12

Damn straight they do. hifiguy Nov 2014 #13

Thanks for making that point. Note, snot Nov 2014 #48

Thanks for the link! RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #50

Well said.. & yes...the Counterbalances have been removed! KoKo Nov 2014 #59

Thanks! And you're exactly right. Those counterbalances are long gone. n/t RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #63

Seems you and I have lived through it...and notice the difference... KoKo Nov 2014 #64

I wish I could say you are very wrong but we know it would be a lie. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #14

It is all fucked up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BlueJac Nov 2014 #17

Says it all... elzenmahn Nov 2014 #18

Yep. Thespian2 Nov 2014 #22

So many Americans are propagandized and stupid. It's hard to tell now which came first! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2014 #27

Even more dangerous than stupid people ruled by propaganda.... RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #29

Yep!!! Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2014 #30

For anti-consumerism, humor and activism watch: "What Would Jesus Buy?" movie appalachiablue Nov 2014 #32

Most Americans have their heads firmly implanted up their assholes. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #33

Sadly, YES in all cases. maddiemom Nov 2014 #34

What's the problem. We spend at least 12 years teaching people what's important. jtuck004 Nov 2014 #37

K&R Derek V Nov 2014 #38

Pffffffft alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #39

The Christian Right has been infiltrating their wolves in sheep's clothing candidates for decades. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #41

We have become a atomized non-society. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #42

This graphically demonstrates...... DeSwiss Nov 2014 #43

oh yeah convincing people to vote is like pulling teeth. redruddyred Nov 2014 #44

Idiotic propaganda photos oberliner Nov 2014 #45

Where you are located and where some of the rest of us are located... KoKo Nov 2014 #61

That is a fair point oberliner Nov 2014 #66

K and R bigwillq Nov 2014 #46

Those Iphone cultist amaze the most. ileus Nov 2014 #47

K/R x100 840high Nov 2014 #49

Back in the day, Jamaal510 Nov 2014 #60