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Prophet 451

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Sun Nov 30, 2014, 10:17 AM
Nov 2014
Do you believe in the Lucifer of the Bible or a different version?


Difficult to explain. Essentially, you've heard teh expression that the victor writes the history? That's how we see the Bible, as a propaganda version of events that only tells god's side of things. So, while the Lucifer I pray to is the same one as the one in the Bible, the Bible version is incomplete and comes from his enemies.

If the Biblical one, do you see him as equal to God?


More or less. That's still to be determined. Essentially, while Revelation predicts that god will triumph at the end of time, that can be ignored as more propaganda. No-one really knows how it will go down.

If not, isn't your quest to defeat God doomed to failure?


I don't believe so but even if it was, doing teh right thing is more important. Better to be right than "saved".

Do you believe in demons evil spirits possession or summoning?


Um, sorta. Demons: There were those who followed Lucifer and fell with him. Most of them still exist and people have written about them through the years. They occupy a similar position as saints do in Catholicism.
Evil spirits: Well, in addition to the celestials, there are also natural spirits, the energy of a place or an event that attains a sort of crude consciousness. They can be nasty but they're rarely evil in the sense of making a moral choice, more crude and lashing out because they feel threatened.
Possession: Not exactly. No spirit can take possession of you or anyone else. They're not designed the same way. It would be like Hulk Hogan trying to squeeze into your shirt. What I have heard of (but never personally experienced) is a way that a demon can co-share a body. Not taking control of it but taking a back seat in the mind to experience physical being again.
Summoning: I'm undecided. I've heard of it but never seen it myself. I would have thought it was insulting to the being in question and so, I wouldn't do it either.

Do you wish to harm others i.e. Christians or Atheists?


No, absolutely not. There's a couple of Christians that I have a personal beef with but that's not because of their spiritual path, that's because there's heat between us personally. It is more important for people to choose their own path than for our paths to agree. Lucifer's fall, his war that I've chosen to be part of, was about the right to moral self-determination. The right of a thinking, feeling species, to choose it's own fate, to go from "thou shalt not" to "I will not" without the threat of hell hanging over their heads. Thus, it would be wrong of me to try and choose a path for others or to harm them (unless in defence of self or others). It is our job to minimise suffering. Since we have been fucked over by the Big Beard, it's imperative not to add to it by fucking each other over. We should instead aid others and not just through prayer, but by getting up off our knees and getting our hands dirty, "If the lot of man is to improve, the seer must become the do-er".

Finally, a quick debunking of common myths that you were polite enough not to ask:
- I don't sacrifice babies, children or animals. The only thing I sacrifice is a small pinch of herbs which symbolise Lucifer's sacrifice that I choose to share with him.
- I do happen to own a black cat but she's not a familiar, she's a pet and the only reason she's black is because she was teh one who needed re-homing most urgently. She and her marmalade sister are adored and spoiled rotten.
- I do happen to have a small alter. It's not actually necessary, I just like teh formalism of it. It has candles, a small statue, an offering bowl (for those herbs I mentioned) and an incense burner (no occult reason, it just makes the place smell nice) and I pray in much the same manner as most people, I go to one knee (the other is too wrecked to kneel on now), clasp hands and close my eyes.
- I don't take recreational drugs (I barely even drink because it reacts badly with my meds) and there are no orgies or, at least, no-one's even invited me to one.
7-2 remember those numbers. [View all] William769 Nov 2014 OP
I'll raise a glass to that Hekate Nov 2014 #1
... William769 Nov 2014 #3
Yep, the writing is on the wall. LAGC Nov 2014 #2
I pray for his death nightly Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #26
Tens of millions of americans agree 100% with every single disgusting pig fuck randys1 Nov 2014 #52
This is distasteful. SylviaD Nov 2014 #67
I'm a Luciferian Satanist n/t Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #74
Seriously? n/t SylviaD Nov 2014 #75
Yes, seriously Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #76
I thought Satanists were atheists who didn't really believe in "Lucifer"? n/t SylviaD Nov 2014 #77
Different kind of Satanist Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #78
Interesting! Please humor a few questions from an interested person. SylviaD Nov 2014 #79
No problem Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #80
Thank you for the information... SylviaD Nov 2014 #81
You're welcome Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #82
If Scalia dies two SCOTUS seats open up rpannier Nov 2014 #65
Aside from just being an inappropriate comment, Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #68
Yay, about time. uppityperson Nov 2014 #4
I would have loved to been a fly on the wall to have heard the two dissenters. William769 Nov 2014 #5
oh yeah uppityperson Nov 2014 #20
Great news! Behind the Aegis Nov 2014 #6
Yes it is my friend. William769 Nov 2014 #7
Great news! Gives us hope! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #8
Hey there stranger! William769 Nov 2014 #9
Hello, my friend! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #10
I am great! Hope you are the same. William769 Nov 2014 #13
So glad to hear that! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #18
I'm sending good vibes your way. William769 Nov 2014 #19
Thanks so much! I can use all I can get, LOL. Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #22
Your furbaby is adorable! Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #27
Thanks so much! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #72
Ah, my dear Rhiannon, forgive me for butting in on your conversation with William! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #25
Peggy! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #73
Thank you leanforward Nov 2014 #70
I'll move on. Control-Z Nov 2014 #11
I'll share a drink with you. William769 Nov 2014 #14
DU rec... SidDithers Nov 2014 #12
Love that picture Sid. William769 Nov 2014 #15
Rec! progressoid Nov 2014 #16
... William769 Nov 2014 #17
Wonderful! Thanks for posting. I am thrilled that it was 7-2. It makes me feel nirvana555 Nov 2014 #21
I did wonder what you meant by those mysterious numbers, my dear William769... CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #23
Wow, I hadn't heard about this! I feel so relieved! Thanks for the good news. freshwest Nov 2014 #24
K&R ReRe Nov 2014 #28
How the hell did I miss this thread for so long! sheshe2 Nov 2014 #29
Hey wait a minute. William769 Nov 2014 #37
:-) sheshe2 Nov 2014 #44
A-Mazing! Might well face it, William.. Cha Nov 2014 #30
Great! Thanks Cha. William769 Nov 2014 #39
That news is worth waking up in the middle of the night! brer cat Nov 2014 #31
~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #32
~ sheshe2 Nov 2014 #33
The tide has definitely turned Egnever Nov 2014 #34
It is a very good thing davidpdx Nov 2014 #35
Thank you for the post. oldandhappy Nov 2014 #36
Just spreading the news. William769 Nov 2014 #42
SCOTUS!!!! bigwillq Nov 2014 #38
Agreed! William769 Nov 2014 #40
Excellent. I think it's over for the haters. MineralMan Nov 2014 #41
Agreed. William769 Nov 2014 #43
Wow! 7-2, that is absolutely wonderful! Spazito Nov 2014 #45
K&R TBF Nov 2014 #46
That's friggin Awesome! William769 Nov 2014 #48
I save the best emoticons TBF Nov 2014 #49
It's all over but the wing-nut screaming. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #47
K & R Iliyah Nov 2014 #50
One more kick as it is making me happy today uppityperson Nov 2014 #51
You realize dissenters do not have to sign onto the Petition to uphold for KS. So, we do not know if blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #53
I am not following you, I am trying to understand what you are saying. William769 Nov 2014 #55
You are not. former9thward Nov 2014 #58
a lot of people gaining heaven05 Nov 2014 #54
Yay! Chellee Nov 2014 #56
This is good news. What case was this? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #57
The two had to be Scalia and Thomas... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #59
100th rec. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #60
k&r Starry Messenger Nov 2014 #61
Scalia and Thomas were the two? NewJeffCT Nov 2014 #62
Well, word around the blogosphere is that Kennedy is a firm vote for marriage freedom. longship Nov 2014 #63
Excellent and hopeful news William mcar Nov 2014 #64
I have friends who'd like to get married here in Michigan gollygee Nov 2014 #66
k and r. that is good news. may all those adults who wish to marry, be free to do so. niyad Nov 2014 #69
Know what else is shocking about 7-2? Roland99 Nov 2014 #71
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