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MineralMan

(151,360 posts)
15. That might happen. Or it might not.
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

We don't know, really. Where I am, Al Franken ran. Betty McCollum ran, and Keith Ellison ran. Turnout was about the same as always in mid-term elections. All three won, as did the progressive state legislators from the district in which I live.

I don't know if you'd call those three "leftists," but they're on the progressive end of the spectrum. Turnout did not really increase. The real time turnout increased was in 2008, when Barack Obama was running. That brought many people to the polls here in Minnesota who normally don't go to the polls. That group did not show up in 2014, even though the same candidates ran. Who showed up were the 50% who show up for every election, regardless of the year. The new voters from 2008 didn't vote in 2014. Same candidates. Different turnout.

But, that's Minnesota. In districts where progressives typically win, progressives won. The state as a whole, however, isn't all Democratic. We have three Republican congressional representatives. Al Franken, who ran in a statewide race in 2008 won only after a long, drawn-own recount that delayed him taking his seat for months. He ended up winning by only 312 votes statewide. In 2014, he won with a much larger margin. That's because he has made himself very popular in Minnesota, and even in a mid-term election, when only about 50% of registered voters turned out, he won with a good margin.

So, your question really remains unanswered, I think. There's a lack of evidence that running candidates who are more to the left actually turns out more voters. I'd like to think more voters would turn out, but that doesn't really seem to be the case, and there are examples of people from the left running in Minnesota and elsewhere. Here, they have won their elections. Elsewhere, they might not have.

Political parties tend to look at past results, it seems, rather than what might happen. It's a given that mid-term elections bring out fewer voters, and campaigns are based on that. Despite all efforts, Minnesota's voter turnout in 2014 was down, even in districts that elected progressives, like mine.

So, with 2016 coming up, what are the parties doing? They're looking at 2008 and 2012 to see who shows up at the polls. I expect to see pretty much the same strategies as have been used in the past, frankly. That's because there's no evidence that running people from the left brings out more voters, generally.

Here's what I think would help: Get progressive Democrats to the polls in unexpected numbers in 2016, regardless of who runs. Give the parties some evidence that those voters will turn out for the elections. Then, in the polls leading up to the election and the polling place surveys, the turnout from the progressive voters will be seen and recognized. Then, the parties might reconsider who to run for various offices.

For example, if progressive voter turnout ended up winning some Congressional seats unexpectedly, that would certainly be noticed and might affect campaign strategies in the future. Bottom line is that political parties tend to look back in time, rather than projecting into the future. That's the nature of things. So, voters need to do the opposite, and project into the future what their turnout will produce in the way of fresh candidates.

I'm lucky. I live in a place where progressive candidates win elections. Not everyone is in that situation.

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unfortunately, the MSM wants to define Clinton as the most left one can go and still be taken Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #1
the sad truth is,,, Cryptoad Nov 2014 #2
which is precisely why we need a credible progressive live Bernie Sanders to try and push the range Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #3
"centrism" ,,, Cryptoad Nov 2014 #5
Sadly, many lambast "the media" because ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #7
Why would potential voters further left show up? There's no candidates further left allowed. Scuba Nov 2014 #8
It is not only a matter of who you vote for Cryptoad Nov 2014 #12
Just imagine if we ran a few "leftists". I'm betting a nice chunk of those who never bother ... Scuba Nov 2014 #13
That might happen. Or it might not. MineralMan Nov 2014 #15
Good explanation of the chicken-and-egg problem. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #22
yup- MBS Nov 2014 #9
or maybe the Time is reasonably stating that if the progressive alternative is a socialist... brooklynite Nov 2014 #11
well, let's see how acceptable it is to the electorate. Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #23
We don't KNOW, but I can use my 45 years of political activity to make an informed assessment... brooklynite Nov 2014 #24
Bernie wins conservative Republican districts by landslide proportions - if he can turn that into Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #25
What conservative districts are you talking about? brooklynite Nov 2014 #26
since he says out loud what most ordinary Americans believe inside - there is a great potential Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #28
This! ^^^^1000++++ 2banon Nov 2014 #18
Come on tooeyeten Nov 2014 #4
Is he really a reporter, though, in your opinion? Or, rather, closeupready Nov 2014 #19
Silver Linings RandiFan1290 Nov 2014 #6
Good Point...Sad but true..as we vote along... KoKo Nov 2014 #17
I watched a TED talks on Choices the other day. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #21
the myth of the free press jakeXT Nov 2014 #10
Recommend Watch... KoKo Nov 2014 #16
Oh, so anyone who also wants to run for the nomination is now an INSURGENT???? WTF? djean111 Nov 2014 #14
After Iraq 2003 (think Judith Miller), the NY Times is a laughingstock among KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #20
Jim Webb is Left?? AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #27
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