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Bagsgroove

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12. Agree

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 01:31 PM

Nov 2014

Barack Obama won two elections not because he convinced a lot of right-wingers to vote for him, but because he was exciting enough to the core Democratic base for them to turn out. I don't think Hillary has that same excitement factor. A lot of people will be "for" her --and tell pollsters they are for her -- but not jazzed up enough about it to get off their butts and go to the polls. I don't know...maybe being the first woman with a chance at the White House might generate that excitement?

The challenge for any candidate (of either party) is to remain "centrist" enough to appeal to independents and the moderate part of their own party, and at the same time be exciting to the base (left leaning or right leaning as the case may be).

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Hillary Clinton has a very tricky needle to thread [View all] cali Nov 2014 OP

I'll take crap for this, but I think a good share of America wants a white man back in charge. CrispyQ Nov 2014 #1

I agree. That's part of what I meant by a reactionary electorate cali Nov 2014 #2

Romney , imho, only polls well because of buyers remorse DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #3

possibly, but that doesn't mean that that itself couldn't be something that worked in his favor cali Nov 2014 #6

She is a turnoff to the younger 50% of voters. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #4

True - could mean a very low turnout if she's the nominee. polichick Nov 2014 #40

She loves war, and war criminals. Those are disqualifiers for me. Scuba Nov 2014 #5

In truth, so does every candidate for President. MineralMan Nov 2014 #7

I disagree. I think she has some unique challenges cali Nov 2014 #9

I know you disagree. You tell us so frequently. MineralMan Nov 2014 #13

True but since most of us vote, cali can sway people on DU so no this is a good place Rex Nov 2014 #14

Most DUers will vote for the Democratic nominee. MineralMan Nov 2014 #19

I'm not concerned at all, just pointing out that people can be swayed to vote Rex Nov 2014 #24

That's certainly true. As I have said a number of times, if Bernie Sanders or MineralMan Nov 2014 #28

True, I don't know if we will even have another viable candidate. Rex Nov 2014 #31

I see 2016 as yet another transitional election. MineralMan Nov 2014 #33

are you confused, MM? do you realize cali Nov 2014 #22

I'm not telling you what to post or not post, Cali. MineralMan Nov 2014 #27

See, you were very well reasoned until THAT comment wyldwolf Nov 2014 #36

Agree Bagsgroove Nov 2014 #12

Clinton fatique aspirant Nov 2014 #8

Though it is not we have already handed Hillary a victory it is really Hillary's to lose Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #10

reducing the damage and continuing threat of corporate influence and control cali Nov 2014 #17

cali, what I am trying to call your attention is the 90% dors not have the funds to Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #29

just because you benefited from a corporation, hardly makes the encroachment cali Nov 2014 #34

so you are saying Warren got campaign money from corporations and she does not have ties Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #35

absolutely. she does not have the history with corporations and Wall Street that Hillary does cali Nov 2014 #37

Okay, she admitted where she got money and she does have connections. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #38

I agree. If it comes down to a fight for the "middle" she's in trouble. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #11

Nice! Bagsgroove Nov 2014 #23

Good defense, huh Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #32

She is not a shoe in, much to the chargin of some here. Rex Nov 2014 #15

Hillary's not stressin' nt BootinUp Nov 2014 #16

How do you know? cali Nov 2014 #18

Its a gift I have. BootinUp Nov 2014 #20

Agreed. And that white working class vote she needs sure as hell aren't living in 2008. hedda_foil Nov 2014 #21

Ensorcelled. One of my favorite words. cali Nov 2014 #26

Indeed, Warren can and probably will ensorcell a great many of them. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #41

All your concerns are why I won't support her through the Cleita Nov 2014 #25

I'm going to disagree with you about one factor here. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #30

They talk about polls TBF Nov 2014 #39

Here's where you're mistaken Proud Public Servant Nov 2014 #42

NO.MORE.BOOMERS. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #43