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Prophet 451

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Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:12 AM Dec 2014

Should The US Have Mandatory Voting? [View all]

So, here's the idea. The turnout for the midterms was shit. The turnout for midterms is always shit. It is a civic good for more people to vote as this (in theory) makes government more representative. Coincidentally, low turnout favors (generally) Republicans and high turnout (generally) favors Democrats. Australia (IIRC) has compulsory voting. If you don't vote, you have to either justify it to a judge or get fined a small amount (like, $20).

So I came up with a few options but all of them require an automatic voter registration. That shouldn't be too hard to do. AFAIK, the US is the only democratic country where you have to actually register to vote. Every other country I know of, you're automatically registered by virtue of being a living citizen. So I'm proposing that, firstly, the US just start automatically registering everyone to vote, the Social Security register has everyone's name and address anyway, it wouldn't be too difficult to register everyone off that. Then, one of these options.

Option A: The US gets compulsory voting. You have to turn up at a polling place, mark or mail in a ballot or you get fined a small amount unless you can justify it to a judge (all proceeds go to funding future elections).

Option B: The US switches to entirely postal voting. In the weeks running up to an election, every eligible citizen gets mailed a polling card. They mark their choice, sign it and mail it back, just like with overseas military votes. Free of postal costs, obviously.

Option C: The US switches to fully online voting. The idea here is that there's a database in every state with everyone's name and SS number. You go to a website, input your SS number. The system checks against the database that you are eligible and haven't already voted. If you clear both of those, you get to pick your choice. Now, the drawback with this one is that, if it's online, it is potentially hackable. However, cyber-security is now at such a level that, given enough funding and expertise, you could make the threat of a hack virtually impossible.

Option D: Things carry on as they are, with barely anyone turning out for midterms.


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Yes
10 (31%)
No
18 (56%)
Yes but totally postal votes
2 (6%)
Online voting
0 (0%)
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No, but Election Day should be a national holiday. Edited to add... Adsos Letter Dec 2014 #1
Well, naturally Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #3
Option B would work Warpy Dec 2014 #2
I agree with automatic registration, but I'm not a fan of making it mandatory. arcane1 Dec 2014 #4
Not casting a ballot IS voting Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #5
So let their choices be PADemD Dec 2014 #42
Not voting IS none of the above. Thor_MN Dec 2014 #49
Disagree treestar Dec 2014 #54
They should care because their legitimacy depends on the consent of the public Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #63
Still an excuse treestar Dec 2014 #66
Constitution doesn't say "we the voters..." Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #67
Do you have a different flavor ice cream? lpbk2713 Dec 2014 #6
My SO has some Ben & Jerrys in the freezer Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #12
For Dems yes Skink Dec 2014 #7
I'm a firm believer in mandatory voting, but in addition.... Rod Beauvex Dec 2014 #8
Query: Do you mean STV? Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #14
Not sure. Rod Beauvex Dec 2014 #17
Sorry Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #25
Ah. OK. Rod Beauvex Dec 2014 #36
There is a none of the above option tabbycat31 Dec 2014 #61
YES! Derek V Dec 2014 #9
Voting is a lot more important than the other mandatory responsibilities we have. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #10
Why vote when media polls do it all for us anyway? Kablooie Dec 2014 #45
Yes,with a compelling fine for noncompliance.Start at $250.00 easychoice Dec 2014 #11
I didn't want to go that high Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #13
Obviously there would be mitigation...But easychoice Dec 2014 #40
No, it would be a violation of the First Amendment. former9thward Dec 2014 #15
I think that's legally questionable Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #20
I would then refer you to the Ninth Kennah Dec 2014 #35
It also covers free speech. Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #70
No. Pay People to Vote AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #16
Voter ID Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #32
No mandatory voting. branford Dec 2014 #18
I honestly can't see a problem with the First Amendment Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #21
It's primarily a violation of free speech, not the right to assemble, among other problems. branford Dec 2014 #23
Thanks for teh links Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #30
I've never had "Minter Wonderland," but it sounds delicious. branford Dec 2014 #33
the Trader Joes Chocolate Mint Ice Cream olddots Dec 2014 #19
Try the Ben & Jerrys Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #22
We'd have a lot of Mickey Mouse write ins and a lot of people simply liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #24
Sure, that's expected Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #27
We already live in a police state. We don't need to make it worse. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #29
No but, Voting Day should be a National Holiday and Civic Duty should be taught in schools. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #26
Agreed on both Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #28
teaching and then encouraging rather than punishing? Nah. That's too radical. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #31
No, but I believe election day should be a national holiday. Rhiannon12866 Dec 2014 #34
Vote by Mail ONLY! Works in the PNW very well. 70% turnout mid-terms. nt ErikJ Dec 2014 #37
The United States is the only civilized country where you have to register to vote.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #38
Compulsory voting is the antithesis of democracy. DRoseDARs Dec 2014 #39
Write-in a candidate if you like Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #47
My option is E. Jenoch Dec 2014 #41
No but purple fingers would be a wonderful addition. Kablooie Dec 2014 #43
Only if 'None' is on ballot and elections monitored by UN on point Dec 2014 #44
Extend early voting periods, maybe make it the entire month before the election. Kurska Dec 2014 #46
No need to make it manditory. Just let people vote. (nt) stone space Dec 2014 #48
Mandatory insurance, mandatory voting... Fumesucker Dec 2014 #50
Yes, I think the voters are pissed off enough already. Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #71
NO, only if they bring back literacy tests, only this time for Real . n/t orpupilofnature57 Dec 2014 #51
“If voting made any difference jambo101 Dec 2014 #52
Yes treestar Dec 2014 #53
Only if education is required too. Jamastiene Dec 2014 #55
I agree with all but forcing people to vote. I think it will bring in a lot of people who are RKP5637 Dec 2014 #56
No to mandatory voting, but yes to vote by mail davidpdx Dec 2014 #57
Should happiness also be mandatory? (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #58
The Beatings will continue until morale improves . . . nt branford Dec 2014 #62
A study showed, America has contempt for the " Unhappy " which orpupilofnature57 Dec 2014 #80
a combination of the above tabbycat31 Dec 2014 #59
Absolutely not! rock Dec 2014 #60
Other: mandate employers provide sufficient paid time for voting. MH1 Dec 2014 #64
No. But, adding a None of the Above option might help turnout. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #65
Tool of dictators to pretend legitimacy One_Life_To_Give Dec 2014 #68
No, and I believe the First Amendment protects the right not to vote Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #69
Mandatory voting is an insipid concept. Throd Dec 2014 #72
Absolutely not. Vinca Dec 2014 #73
No this is a free country and people should be allowed to make a statement in not showing up. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #74
The OP doesn't understand the functions of the states vs the federal gov. CK_John Dec 2014 #75
you hit on the answer right there - vote-by-mail 0rganism Dec 2014 #76
Only if, in EVERY race, the voters are given an option of Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #77
Vote by mail, sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #78
The wingnuts would go ape! Turbineguy Dec 2014 #79
A day without conservative poutrage is a day without cheer Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #82
Rather than a fine, maybe an extra $1000 deduction on income tax? dmosh42 Dec 2014 #81
I think $1k is a little too much Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #83
Yes, the premise is what US citizens usually respond to. dmosh42 Dec 2014 #84
No (nt) bigwillq Dec 2014 #85
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