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I'll let the primaries decide. zappaman Nov 2014 #1
Good idea, and whoever is the democratic nominee I will vote for still_one Nov 2014 #15
Yep - agree. Completely. nt MADem Nov 2014 #26
Amen! n/t SylviaD Nov 2014 #30
You called it (nt) reACTIONary Nov 2014 #62
While Clinton is better than 100% of possible Republicans... Scootaloo Nov 2014 #79
Maybe still_one Dec 2014 #101
I won't be participating. MoonRiver Dec 2014 #121
I will be voting for the Democratic nominee because I know just how important the SC is, and will do still_one Dec 2014 #134
"Those so-called Democrats who don't are irrelevant." CrispyQ Dec 2014 #150
They are going to have to live with the consequences for decades, not me still_one Dec 2014 #164
If the Democratic party has strategized themselves into a one issue party, then shame on them. CrispyQ Dec 2014 #197
The stakes are high indeed Central Scruitinizer Dec 2014 #187
Your assessment is wrong regarding Hillary on the social issues. still_one Dec 2014 #190
I would suggest that you read her book for a start. olegramps Dec 2014 #196
Maybe you misunderstood. MoonRiver Dec 2014 #206
Although Hillary would not be my top pick, I think we will need a moderate to win searchfortruth1 Dec 2014 #199
Hillary has this done! yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #202
Well said. We have seen what the SC is doing to us now--it can not riversedge Dec 2014 #129
The next president will determine the direction of the supreme court. There is no doubt in my mind still_one Dec 2014 #137
"they will pay the consequences". No, it is ALL of us who riversedge Dec 2014 #146
true still_one Dec 2014 #147
yay "the SC is the most important issue of the next election " belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #135
and you were right. However, now there won't be just a court that leans right, if a republican wins still_one Dec 2014 #138
There is nothing more important than stopping Hillary woo me with science Dec 2014 #141
Whoever is the Democratic nominee is better than the republican period. All one needs to do is look still_one Dec 2014 #144
Voting for the lesser of two evils has gotten me what I was voting against in the first place. CrispyQ Dec 2014 #156
The Supreme Court is not the lessor of two evils, and if you cannot see the difference on that still_one Dec 2014 #162
Thank you for this. Hillary is Republican lite... CoffeeCat Dec 2014 #158
If she runs and wins the nomination I suspect you won't spend much time at the Democratic still_one Dec 2014 #163
And yeah, that would suck for me... CoffeeCat Dec 2014 #192
"...politically homeless." CrispyQ Dec 2014 #195
I honestly don't think the plan by corporate Democrats is to win. woo me with science Dec 2014 #219
The Democrats are not the helpless babies they pretend to be... CoffeeCat Dec 2014 #223
Well said. woo me with science Dec 2014 #224
Couldn't agree more. We would be better off with any Dem but Hillary & have an easier time crushing the Rethug nominee. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #167
And to pretend that Third Way Democrats will defend the Constitution at this point, woo me with science Dec 2014 #145
Outstanding, woo. hifiguy Dec 2014 #182
100% absolutely. SCOTUS should be our FOCUS come 2016. eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #176
Absolutely! That's why Hillary should not be our candidate. We need a liberal president who will ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #185
So, you're saying that Bader-Ginsberg and Steven Breyer are wishy-washy moderates? Really?? BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #203
Amen! n/t SylviaD Nov 2014 #29
The one thing I can be sure of SteveG Nov 2014 #74
So you dont care if INdemo Nov 2014 #82
So get your shit together and find a different candidate. zappaman Nov 2014 #87
Well we dont need a Republican lite INdemo Dec 2014 #123
Feed me! demwing Dec 2014 #127
We currently have a Democratic President. dotymed Dec 2014 #139
People hate to talk about Caretha Dec 2014 #213
I will gladly fight to make Hillary Clinton our next president, cheapdate Dec 2014 #214
Me too and I will support and vote for the democratic candidate workinclasszero Dec 2014 #124
That is what primaries are for ... Cosmocat Dec 2014 #125
Second this one and will vote for the nominee question everything Dec 2014 #181
I agree!! nt DawgHouse Dec 2014 #189
I Will Vote Against In The Primary billhicks76 Dec 2014 #198
I can't say if I will vote against her in the primaries since I don't know who is running. zappaman Dec 2014 #201
The claim is definitely false. nt BootinUp Nov 2014 #2
How so? I'm listening. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #6
Because BootinUp Nov 2014 #8
Yeah, I'm sure she's waiting for the environmental impact studies..... ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #9
I think the real "crock" (nice "civil" discussion, there, pal) comes from a mindset MADem Nov 2014 #27
Why wouldn't she? joshcryer Nov 2014 #92
Well, I'll go with those members of Congress who signed on to the claim made ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #10
They didn't even have anything to stand on, read the statement(letter). BootinUp Nov 2014 #12
Everything she did is stale at this point. But it will ALL be fresh again when ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #14
What in the world could the "government impact study" say that would influence her rhett o rick Nov 2014 #21
"This project is illegal." joshcryer Nov 2014 #94
That doesn't answer my question. Does she think it's cool now and maybe the study will reveal rhett o rick Dec 2014 #102
Why wouldn't she defer to the experts? joshcryer Dec 2014 #103
The Canadian dotymed Dec 2014 #142
Tar sands already go via Keystone. joshcryer Dec 2014 #221
You mean like McCullough deferred to the Grand Jury. I think she should be able to rhett o rick Dec 2014 #154
I would have zero respect if she didn't differ to scientists. joshcryer Dec 2014 #220
What assessment do we need to recognize that having a pipeline cross rhett o rick Dec 2014 #222
I think her tenure on walmarts board of directors is more damaging. Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #3
Really? Being the first female board member there EVER? Forcing the corporation to MADem Nov 2014 #35
Kinda contradictory there. Union Scribe Nov 2014 #49
Not contradictory at all--she was "allowed" to nibble around the edges. MADem Nov 2014 #60
Well it comes across as an exercise Union Scribe Nov 2014 #64
What do you mean "comes across?" In other words, like so many women and MADem Nov 2014 #72
That has become common boilerplate language. zeemike Nov 2014 #86
Yep. And her husband was ... Governor of Arkansas! closeupready Dec 2014 #119
Her law firm represented WM in several litigations. MADem Dec 2014 #153
Clinton Remained Silent As Wal-Mart Fought Unions RiverLover Nov 2014 #52
She was the junior token on a board that didn't WANT her there in the first place. MADem Nov 2014 #57
That would be OK if she weren't running for presient and if Walmart were not supporting her. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #104
Come off it--that is just a lame remark. She wasn't "running for President" MADem Dec 2014 #148
Yes, Hear hear. Some posters here proves that a little smattering of knowlege lumpy Nov 2014 #58
What was that, 40 years ago? LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #173
Not for the conservative wing of the party. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #4
Oooo-ooo So am I supposed to be scared and/or intimidated by that? nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #16
I hope you aren't. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #17
Hhmm. 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #18
That's a mighty broad brush you're using. "Hate" is pretty strong. cheapdate Nov 2014 #28
Of course, Sen. Warren is on the letter asking the WH to @#$% off. MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #5
The Koch Brothers would love them some Hillary Clinton power. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #7
I don't think so either, NYC_SKP. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #11
She is as tied to the oil industry as she is to wall street~ RiverLover Nov 2014 #13
This is ridiculous. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #19
This is what happened, & you're right, its ridiculous. RiverLover Nov 2014 #24
Oh..oh-oh-oh... but that's staaaaaale! nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #20
:-) RiverLover Nov 2014 #25
Isn't it more likely... uberblonde Nov 2014 #47
yep. the potus calls he shots on an issue like this (nt ) reACTIONary Nov 2014 #68
It was over in 2003. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #22
Just another nail. But I can't imagine any possible GOP canidate that I'd vote for against her. marble falls Nov 2014 #23
Primaries come before the generals, so you'll have a few Democrats on the menu. nt NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #38
Like I said, I won't vote for her in the primaries but I won't vote against her if she gets the nod. marble falls Nov 2014 #41
THERE you go! Cosmocat Dec 2014 #126
I'm seeing Hillary tomorrow...should I give her fair warning? brooklynite Nov 2014 #31
Give her ring a big kiss for us Union Scribe Nov 2014 #33
hehe, yep. closeupready Dec 2014 #120
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #36
Whatever makes ya feel good.... brooklynite Nov 2014 #56
Just curious... Union Scribe Nov 2014 #65
Same as it would be if she wasn't there... brooklynite Nov 2014 #77
Why should she be president? nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #100
$1,000, or nearly a month's income for many people on Social Security. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #105
I agree that campaigns cost too much... brooklynite Dec 2014 #109
Sad but true. I just like to put things in perspective. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #160
If you have $1,000 to throw away, bvar22 Dec 2014 #175
Of course...because ALL Wealthy people are conservative..... brooklynite Dec 2014 #179
Just an observation, I would NOT have alerted #36... brooklynite Nov 2014 #80
I'm sick of the insults. I'm glad it got alerted. SunSeeker Dec 2014 #136
Both ends of the spectrum? Caretha Dec 2014 #217
I personally helped her with her husband's gubernatorial race so that you are ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #66
Enjoy. joshcryer Dec 2014 #95
The debate isn't "over", but HRC *will* be our candidate. About time, too. n/t SylviaD Nov 2014 #32
Why should she be our candidate and how is it a given and how is it about time? nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #34
Some of us on DU think... SylviaD Nov 2014 #37
Yes, I was here and i know. That doesn't answer my questions. So, you're saying ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #42
I'm not here to debate you. n/t SylviaD Nov 2014 #43
Then why are you here? Why did you comment in MY thread? Tell ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #45
Why did I comment? Good Q. Going back to lurking. SylviaD Dec 2014 #113
Women and men ought to wait for the right candidate, not vote on their reproductive parts. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #46
Good post. 840high Nov 2014 #75
+1 davidpdx Dec 2014 #131
you sure as hell can't speak for women in general or women on DU, Syl cali Dec 2014 #106
Fine. n/t SylviaD Dec 2014 #114
I'd say…she had her time CoffeeCat Dec 2014 #191
There are two Hillarys. Maedhros Nov 2014 #67
hear hear DemandsRedPill Dec 2014 #207
Yep, Amen to that! juajen Dec 2014 #99
etc. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #39
Thank you. Hillary supporters, please walk us through your rebuttal of this graphic.... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #44
Sure. It looks something like this: ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2014 #55
That was dismissal, not rebuttal. Union Scribe Nov 2014 #61
Yes, verily. Makes one wonder about Clinton haters. What are their motivations? lumpy Nov 2014 #81
Exactly. Though I can guess a few motives... n/t SylviaD Nov 2014 #84
Looking upthread, would I be wrong in guessing that your guess is "sexism"? Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #111
You would have to be blind not to see rampant sexism in today's society incuding on DU. n/t SylviaD Dec 2014 #112
Sure, at least to the former, but that's the answer to a different question. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #115
Like I said, not here to debate. Mistake to post. You win. n/t SylviaD Dec 2014 #116
I'm curious, then - why are you here? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #117
I have been here since 2008 because SylviaD Dec 2014 #122
do tell. what do you think they are, lumpy? cali Dec 2014 #107
Left-wing politics, and the desire for a more left-wing candidate, in the main. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #110
You are not addressing the accusations, but a strawman that she is a Koch favorite instead karynnj Dec 2014 #151
The senator lost me when she voted with the credit card companies in personal bankruptcies... Octafish Nov 2014 #40
Peak Oil! nt BootinUp Nov 2014 #48
Is that supposed to be another argument as to why Hillary should be president? Because... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #70
I welcome your defeat and the rest of your Legalequilibrium78 Nov 2014 #50
Yikes! nt darkangel218 Nov 2014 #54
How can oil be "here to stay" when there is only a finite amount of it? arcane1 Nov 2014 #71
Obviously he/she thought they were posting on FR. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #169
What's so good about Hillary? Why not just vote for a Republican, then. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #78
Wow!! Are you my arch nemesis? A super-villian unbeknownst to all, until now?? ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #89
Horsepucky Jack Rabbit Dec 2014 #97
The Debate Was Over A Long Time Ago For This Progressive cantbeserious Nov 2014 #51
Let them eat cake! DeSwiss Nov 2014 #53
the racist shit the Clintons tried in '08 is enough for me to tell them to fuck off LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #59
And the sexism she was subjected to, that doesn't register, right? Of course not. n/t SylviaD Nov 2014 #85
Not from the Obama camp.That is not his style. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #88
so the sexism she was subjected to cancels out the racist shit her campaign employed? cali Dec 2014 #108
The sexism shit does not excuse or cancel out the racist shit. djean111 Dec 2014 #186
At 40 a barrel who is going to want tar sand oil? Saved by the market. CK_John Nov 2014 #63
As I recall, at least "historically" kentauros Dec 2014 #133
Obviously that is all you need to know about anything. lumpy Nov 2014 #69
the debate was over for me a long time ago. I will not vote for Hillary. liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #73
Hillary in 2016 and Jeb in 2020 then Hillary, Jeb, Chelsea....................... jalan48 Nov 2014 #76
Nah, it'll be Julian Castro in 2020 or 2024. joshcryer Dec 2014 #96
im voting for whomever supports ending the drug war. Garion_55 Nov 2014 #83
K&R. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #90
I will vote for my best candidate in the primary and also in the general election. bullimiami Nov 2014 #91
I'm voting for whoever wins the Democratic primary bhikkhu Nov 2014 #93
Only if you're a single issue voter and that's your single issue. n/t pnwmom Dec 2014 #98
That single issue (no, it's not my only issue with her) shows that she sneakily works ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #155
The language you quoted does not appear at the link. nt geek tragedy Dec 2014 #118
You noticed that too, huh? Recursion Dec 2014 #140
I have edited my post and thanked geek tragedy for bringing this to my attention. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #184
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have edited to OP to account for this discrepancy.nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #183
K & R +++ Thespian2 Dec 2014 #128
completely agree with you, chisolmtraildem hopemountain Dec 2014 #130
But as you can see from the above posts rock Dec 2014 #132
I didn't realize it was that simple - el_bryanto Dec 2014 #143
I support her. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #149
Cool story. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #152
Why? nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #165
Because I think she's the most qualified. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #166
She was third behind Edwards in Iowa. She lost one primary already. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #168
Yes, I'm aware of that. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #170
Yea, if what you need is a Wall Street/MIC country, then I guess she is qualified. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #171
Last time I checked, Edwards isn't running in 2016... brooklynite Dec 2014 #194
I can't stand Hillary Clinton.. CoffeeCat Dec 2014 #157
This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #159
Deleted above post. Realized someone, instead of debating my comment, would instead ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #161
Alert on what? CoffeeCat Dec 2014 #193
Wasn't referring to your post #157. Was referring to my post #159 in which I made a comment ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #200
I see! CoffeeCat Dec 2014 #210
I don't support her has our nominee. Since I'm the author of the OP, in which I declare ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #218
You speak for me, CoffeeCat. hifiguy Dec 2014 #177
Look close and you'll find a Keystone connection to most dems...nt joeybee12 Dec 2014 #172
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2014 #174
They're welcome to go start their own party and website. Or, keep it simple and go ahead ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #180
I am a Hillary supporter and not a third wayer! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #208
I do not vote for Conservatives. Maedhros Dec 2014 #178
Everyone said Hillary was a lock to be the nominee in 2008. It didn't happen though. TeamPooka Dec 2014 #188
Clinton seems to be stuck in the 1990's. Utopian Leftist Dec 2014 #204
Hopefully she wont get nominated. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #205
Truthfully, it was over long before you posted this BootinUp Dec 2014 #209
She long ago stopped being a Dem. Pure-blood corporatist. Roland99 Dec 2014 #211
Not good.. KeystoneXL is stupid. Cha Dec 2014 #212
This OP is hogwash, period. nt BootinUp Dec 2014 #216
She will be the candidate IkeRepublican Dec 2014 #215
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