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yodermon

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45. when i hear the phrase "we've made progress" in reference to BO being elected

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:48 PM

Dec 2014

I always interpreted it to mean that "society" (i.e. the white majority) had progressed enough to elect an African American. I never thought it meant, "wow black folks finally got it together enough to get in the white house" or whatever patronizing drivel.
Have I just been interpreting it differently than everyone else?

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Chris Rock: It's not black people who have progressed. It's white people. [View all] kpete Dec 2014 OP

The man has a point tkmorris Dec 2014 #1

Brilliant (although a quick perusal of the online comments section KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #2

You even hear crazy white people in casual conversation. gordianot Dec 2014 #5

Amen rbrnmw Dec 2014 #18

He's talking privilege. Orsino Dec 2014 #3

Agreed Mr Dixon Dec 2014 #4

frankly, I think his comments are a garbled mess cali Dec 2014 #6

cali kpete Dec 2014 #8

I totally agree, Kpete. juajen Dec 2014 #26

Another agreement! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #98

Weak sauce cali Darb Dec 2014 #125

that's probably because ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #133

Chris Rock is one of the best commentators around iandhr Dec 2014 #7

ROCK kpete Dec 2014 #9

K & R nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #10

Been saying this for a while now. bravenak Dec 2014 #11

substitute sexism for racism and females for black people and it all becomes really, really clear. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #36

Same thing with homophobia and antisemitism. bravenak Dec 2014 #43

exactly. Succintly put and easy (I hope) for anyone to understand. These comments by Chris Rock Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #48

yep. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #101

Fair or not, it is your job not to be bullied and that means it is your job to stop them if you can TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #104

yeah...and that also applies to the larger issues we're talking sbout... BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #107

Exactly what I thought after B.'s post!. True like homophobia, antisemitism pointed out. appalachiablue Dec 2014 #116

Always, the person, in charge of the scenario, is the one responsible for their actions. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #137

Or, to make DU REALLY understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #134

It is at this point. I have said for a long time it is getting to a point the Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #136

you are correct, fxstc Dec 2014 #59

No. In the end the aggressor must stop the aggression. bravenak Dec 2014 #60

really? fxstc Dec 2014 #64

Yes, really. bravenak Dec 2014 #67

+1 nt ChazII Dec 2014 #89

fantastic, Bravenak. kwassa Dec 2014 #90

Thanks Kwassa. bravenak Dec 2014 #91

When enough white people feel as victimized by the people who run their fucked up economic system, Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #102

I hope so. bravenak Dec 2014 #105

Or they'll just blame it on the "Takers" and "Moochers" and "Welfare Cheats" YoungDemCA Dec 2014 #135

Good Point Long Drive Dec 2014 #139

Such truth. Yet when the conservatives have had enough if the abuse their handler masters Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #142

**** THIS NEEDS TO BE AN OP (so I can Rec it) **** Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #111

Totally agree Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #131

so true, bravenak. i am beyond tired of the mindset that believes that black people locdlib Dec 2014 #66

Thank you. bravenak Dec 2014 #68

Well said! mountain grammy Dec 2014 #95

Rev. Al, Jamaal510 Dec 2014 #112

My bad. bravenak Dec 2014 #114

Wow, is that why were mentioned? That comment about the three of them made NO sense to me Number23 Dec 2014 #123

Wow.... BronxBoy Dec 2014 #62

exactly what I was saying fxstc Dec 2014 #65

too obvious JI7 Dec 2014 #92

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #94

Riiiiigggghhhhtttt....... Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #106

indeed! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #99

It's a catch-22 Aerows Dec 2014 #122

I guess we may just have to deal with the whiners. bravenak Dec 2014 #127

Shutting up isn't in the cards Aerows Dec 2014 #138

Good comedians, are philosophers first. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #12

He's a really smart man gollygee Dec 2014 #13

LOL azmom Dec 2014 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Dec 2014 #88

"White people were crazy. Now they're not as crazy." What a racist A-hole. nt clarice Dec 2014 #14

Oh, are you sad? gollygee Dec 2014 #16

So those are all good reasons for racism? I'm not sure that I understand. nt clarice Dec 2014 #17

I'm wondering gollygee Dec 2014 #19

IMO...it's not the "effects" of his comments that matter.... clarice Dec 2014 #23

OK so here's the issue gollygee Dec 2014 #25

fear of reprisal DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #30

HOLY CRAP EVERYBODY.....calm down.....my only point is that what he said is very ugly to me. jeeeez clarice Dec 2014 #34

Maybe this can help you understand - Imagine you are five years old JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #54

I'd like to add one more idea to your excellent illustration.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2014 #110

You are correct. Look at the difference in klan marches or rallies of any white supremacists 7962 Dec 2014 #119

And in 1994 JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #132

David Duke won a majority of hte white vote in Louisiana in the 1990s gollygee Dec 2014 #144

The owner of that hotel JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #129

slavery and jim crow were very ugly noiretextatique Dec 2014 #82

Very good point JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #130

You're mad he isn't going to be lynched or at least whipped for talking like that, it sounds like. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #108

Fear Of Reprisal? Are You Going To Dunce Cap Him? Long Drive Dec 2014 #140

Therein lies the problem rbrnmw Dec 2014 #20

Please be kind enough to explain it to me....and please be nice. nt clarice Dec 2014 #24

Chris Rock isn't being racist. rbrnmw Dec 2014 #29

Nobody Needs To Explain This To You Long Drive Dec 2014 #141

Of course you know he meant white-dominated culture & not actual "white people," right? cyberswede Dec 2014 #32

OK...but he should have stated so. Words are powerful things. nt clarice Dec 2014 #35

Almost as powerful as our ability to infer an obvious context and meaning LanternWaste Dec 2014 #41

Again, words are powerful things. You are cordially invited to disagree. nt clarice Dec 2014 #42

So's the ability to read things critically... BronxBoy Dec 2014 #63

maybe he didn't care about offending you noiretextatique Dec 2014 #84

But we are crazy Matrosov Dec 2014 #21

Well said.....but....I think you may be painting with a very broad brush. peace.out. nt clarice Dec 2014 #28

What an absolute misrepresentation of his point. bullwinkle428 Dec 2014 #22

Again, please explain the misrepresentation. Thank you. clarice Dec 2014 #31

"Crazy" implies mentally ill, or at least something along those lines. His point bullwinkle428 Dec 2014 #53

Strawman noted uponit7771 Dec 2014 #27

Yet another instance where you agree with right wingers LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #33

Are you still riding that same tired horse? Please come up with hate speech.... clarice Dec 2014 #38

I'll stop pointing out that you have right wing views LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #39

Oh ok........I didn't realize that you were the opinion police.... clarice Dec 2014 #44

Perhaps you didn't realize this is Democratic Underground LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #46

Ohhhh now I remember why I had you on ignore.....your attack dog hate speech. Back you go. nt clarice Dec 2014 #49

Your right wing opinions are just that-- right wing LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #50

So when a white person is critical of the "black community", that's racist. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #40

You might be interested in the distinction between racism, prejudice, and discrimination. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #47

that would be reverse racism that you are trying to explain which does not exist. peace. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #51

Mostly agree Lucky Luciano Dec 2014 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #75

Will look into that. I never differentiated race based bigotry and racism. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2014 #78

I fixed my post up at #47 that has an explanation. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #93

Cheers. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2014 #96

Owning slaves is crazy. Thinking slavery is wrong is less crazy. arcane1 Dec 2014 #61

+1 Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #76

Thanks for keeping the stereotype alive! nt. Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #71

LOL. Iggo Dec 2014 #73

He is using "crazy" but means they were racist treestar Dec 2014 #77

Racism is Crazy. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #109

white people were not crazier? noiretextatique Dec 2014 #81

I don't think he's racist myself, to be honest. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #86

Spare us, please, the reverse racist drivel. Darb Dec 2014 #126

That is one smart comedian Android3.14 Dec 2014 #15

Comedians often seem to be really smart people. /nt Marr Dec 2014 #37

when i hear the phrase "we've made progress" in reference to BO being elected yodermon Dec 2014 #45

Me too cyberswede Dec 2014 #52

What I've heard gollygee Dec 2014 #55

Africans ruled huge empires eons before Washington was a baby. Qualified to rule. Rex Dec 2014 #56

Thanks kpete Dec 2014 #70

Ammo is half what it was a couple yrs ago, does he think Obama lowered the prices? 7962 Dec 2014 #120

Far more insane. UN UFO hit squads and aliens run INTERPOL for the NWO crazy. Rex Dec 2014 #121

kick Dawson Leery Dec 2014 #58

I like what he says. Behind the Aegis Dec 2014 #69

Chris is talking about "celebrities", not .... Whiskeytide Dec 2014 #72

Chris is going to turn the Oscar show out in March. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #79

Have ALWAYS liked this guy. annabanana Dec 2014 #80

Comedians are often smart as shit. BootinUp Dec 2014 #83

I'll meet you about halfway on this, Chris: Both whites AND blacks..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #85

The offended ones in this thread are showing their true colors. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2014 #87

"The offended ones in this thread are showing their true colors" Number23 Dec 2014 #100

it's so clear, once he says it. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #97

The best outcome was the system spiking the Grand Jury as they did Strelnikov_ Dec 2014 #103

During the 1960s, seeing the blatant and brutal police assaults on black children and tblue37 Dec 2014 #128

Awesome! AllyCat Dec 2014 #113

I agree Omnith Dec 2014 #115

Rock is a smart man and he's making a valid point Warpy Dec 2014 #117

"We" has always meant humanity or society to me IronLionZion Dec 2014 #118

And there is still MUCH more progress that can be made! Number23 Dec 2014 #124

No one is going to stop racism except the racists. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #143