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42. Thank you. More corporate messaging to normalize the unconscionable.

Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:57 PM

Dec 2014

Offering just cameras as a solution is absurd. We are continually propagandized by the corporate message machine to accept what has been done to this country as a "new normal"....

...whether it is mass surveillance, the impoverishment of our middle class and replacement of careers with with low-wage service jobs...and obscenely militarized police forces.

It's not acceptable. It's not anything that should be considered "normal" in the United States of America.

The constant stream of military equipment and training into our civilian police forces is not acceptable by any stretch of the imagination, and this constant, tacit message that we have no right to expect its actual reversal should outrage every American.

The militarization ITSELF needs to be stopped and reversed.
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Executive Order on Police Militarization [View all] sheshe2 Dec 2014 OP

that equipment should go to the National Guard not the police... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #1

Didn't it used to? I wonder if the National Guard is still getting it or if police departments are ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #3

Well as most National Guards are decimated....I think the police....because it suits VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #4

Yup, better to have that equipment bearing down on the populace than to have it collecting ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #7

If it is being used....it has to be replaced.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #10

"decimated" huh pasto76 Dec 2014 #17

I am speaking from what I have heard about them....that the economy has adverselly effected VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #25

You took the words right off my keyboard meow2u3 Dec 2014 #15

yeah thanks for calling us second class soldiers pasto76 Dec 2014 #18

Title 10, US code. National Guard ARE militia. gcomeau Dec 2014 #29

I'm using "militia" in the technical Constitutional context meow2u3 Dec 2014 #37

So Im in the Colorado Army National Guard in a combat MOS 13M pasto76 Dec 2014 #24

Oh god an offended National Guardsman... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #26

THAT's the part that scares US.....why we want the National Guard to do that job...NOT Police VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #27

who cares whether their posture and training and sqared-awayness are fake paulkienitz Dec 2014 #34

right Locrian Dec 2014 #36

Well put. All the more reason not to give untrained people military gear. bhikkhu Dec 2014 #46

Why do cops even need all that crap? ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #48

And the Bearcat Armored Vehicles that cost over truedelphi Dec 2014 #55

If some of you will remember VA_Jill Dec 2014 #40

I absolutely agree. But this OP says that Pres Obama wants to "track" the equipment. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #56

1st Rec! Hekate Dec 2014 #2

Wont this thrill the teaparty who are all certain that the federal govt is collecting weapons to NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #5

LOL Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #9

ayep. The loons will all screech that ..here it is, see weTOLDYOU this is what he would do... Volaris Dec 2014 #16

The TeaBaggers will laugh at this. The Pres isn't going to curtail the weapon sales, he is merely rhett o rick Dec 2014 #52

Adding congrats on 20K posts, m'dear. Also, that equipment needs to be in the Nat'l Guard Armory... Hekate Dec 2014 #6

Yes, I get your point about an SU invasion, it's your avatar which I have always loved. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #12

Here is an uncropped version of that image Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #8

I don't think it was edited out. These are two separate pictures. The pic up top is when more guys okaawhatever Dec 2014 #38

Different photo, yes. But the other one was cropped that's for sure. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #47

Cameras and additional training will probably be the best brer cat Dec 2014 #11

Yes it's a good start, brer cat. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #14

Not one more fucking bullet until they're all wearing cameras all the time. Scuba Dec 2014 #13

IF you had a nickle for every post... Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #19

Yes, put cameras on them. Maedhros Dec 2014 #20

The militarization ITSELF needs to be stopped and reversed. woo me with science Dec 2014 #21

Well of course it is this Presidents fault it always is and always will be. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #35

So did you notice what the action the President is taking with this Exec Order? TRACKING rhett o rick Dec 2014 #53

congrats on 20k!!! k&r.... spanone Dec 2014 #22

Good on Obama. n/t Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #23

For what? For demanding that we start " better track[ing] the weapons"? What will tracking rhett o rick Dec 2014 #57

Thank you President Obama! Cha Dec 2014 #28

Thanks Cha! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #33

Good on Obama, seriously 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #30

Same here!!!!! RKP5637 Dec 2014 #32

Thanks! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #49

Sadly this is the Obama I voted for also. He didn't say he would do anything but "track". rhett o rick Dec 2014 #58

Not only that 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #59

Happy 20k post! RKP5637 Dec 2014 #31

Lol~ sheshe2 Dec 2014 #50

Congrats on 20k. Glad Obama is giving a reasonable response. nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #39

Fuck some better tracking and reviews STOP THE FLOW OF THE HARDWARE AND REPO what is out there. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #41

Thank you. More corporate messaging to normalize the unconscionable. woo me with science Dec 2014 #42

Have you lobbied congress yet? sheshe2 Dec 2014 #43

But sheshe this exec order accomplishes nothing. Zero, zilch. As CIC why doesn't he simply rhett o rick Dec 2014 #54

The entire Democratic leadership opposed Grayson amendment to stop arming cops with DOD weapons woo me with science Dec 2014 #45

Hell yes! kentuck Dec 2014 #44

Can you spell Bull Shit? This is more rhetoric. What action will be taken? More tracking? rhett o rick Dec 2014 #51