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In reply to the discussion: What Form Should US Healthcare Take? [View all]fadedrose
(10,044 posts)46. Polled Americans was the wrong group
Before the nuclear option 2/3 of the Senate was needed and he didn't have it.
The only way to get it passed was to show the Republicans that private insurance companies would still be part of the health plan. You know how they love "private" stuff, like military combat troops and civilians doing government jobs, and they're trying to close the post offices, as well as do away with SS and have contributions put into the stock market...
Yeah, Obama didn't try hard enough. Maybe if he were more of an idiot he may have.
Edit: I don't think even the nuclear option would have helped in this kind of law. 60 would be needed at least because of its nature.
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Not necessarily. The ACA included funding to help states set up their own single-payer
pnwmom
Dec 2014
#47
He wasn't negotiating with the GOP and he knew it. He was negotiating with Lieberman and Baucus
Recursion
Dec 2014
#15
No, you're missing the huge difference. NHS means doctors work for the government.
Recursion
Dec 2014
#14
NHS isn't single payer. You can be NHS or you can be single payer. Medicare-for-all is single payer
Recursion
Dec 2014
#13
Interestingly, in Canada it's illegal to bill for any covered treatment privately
Recursion
Dec 2014
#30
And if we went to something like NHS, we'd have to figure out how to fund that, too.
pnwmom
Dec 2014
#62
And Medicare still uses private insurance companies to do the actual insuring
Recursion
Dec 2014
#22
I chose other because I know what the HS system is in Europe, and I'd LOVE to have theirs.
napi21
Dec 2014
#34
Well, first off, I don't agree that insurance companies are "in charge of everything here"
Recursion
Dec 2014
#71
NO SIR. There was NO CHARGE! He asked about what he owed, and they said nothing.
napi21
Dec 2014
#72
Fully socialist. Public health, public education, would be federally funded by income taxes.
hunter
Dec 2014
#45