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jwirr

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32. One area that I have had personal experience in this is welfare. When I first had to get help for my

Thu Dec 4, 2014, 04:53 PM

Dec 2014

disabled daughter and my other two children (due to divorce) welfare was controlled by the states. But it was well known that some states paid a lot less than others. I lived in one of the good states (Iowa) but if you lived in some states in the south they got very little at all. I assume that the thinking regarding welfare has not changed much today with the conservatives.

For that reason the federal government took over state welfare programs in what was called AFDC. It let the states administer the programs but the laws governing the program came from the feds. Each state had to follow the laws or risk losing the subsidy from the feds. What happened was that each state had a formula that was used to figure out the monthly amount that a client received. States were different but it was based on cost of living in the state. Iowa remained one of the better states and we did not get cut. Some of those other states went from receiving $12 a month to at least a percentage of the cost of living.

In this case the Feds did help.

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It's is amazing how little regard many posters have for the role of the states [View all] CK_John Dec 2014 OP

Who are these many who think everything can be solved by federal law? Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #1

Just look at the ACA and get rid of the grand jury threads for examples. CK_John Dec 2014 #6

I have not seen anyone in those threads say there can be a federal law for everything Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #11

+1 nt left_of_center Dec 2014 #13

When people's Civil Rights are at stake that IS a Federal Issue. Since when did states sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #21

Didn't Founders write that Fed trumps States? JaneyVee Dec 2014 #2

Founders wrote that part confusingly on purpose el_bryanto Dec 2014 #3

Local government is also the most vulnerable to corruption and machine politics n/t Adrahil Dec 2014 #33

Well the SCOTUS last yr gutted the voting provisions and put states back in control. CK_John Dec 2014 #4

The states check the fed and the fed checks the states. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #9

The founders very deliberately avoided coming down either way on that Recursion Dec 2014 #30

No, they did not. branford Dec 2014 #31

Considering we are one nation... CherokeeDem Dec 2014 #5

That was Hamilton idea but Burr put and end to that. CK_John Dec 2014 #8

We are one nation comprised of 50 different and important states branford Dec 2014 #34

That's the basic problem of the US: too many states-rights. DetlefK Dec 2014 #7

Remember it's the government you got not the government you want. CK_John Dec 2014 #10

If this is a democracy we can work to make it the government we want Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #14

Well it is a republic, a representative democracy. CK_John Dec 2014 #17

It's about partisanship. DetlefK Dec 2014 #22

Weimar failed because of monetary policy Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #18

You are mixing up the years. DetlefK Dec 2014 #25

voters in my State do not have to present ID to vote Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #19

If it were up to my state, there'd be no healthcare for the sick, school or food for the children... NightWatcher Dec 2014 #12

I'm not a big fan of states rights but I'm a big fan of "the process". If you don't CK_John Dec 2014 #15

If it weren't for the Federal govt...... sendero Dec 2014 #16

some people don't understand why local prosecutors are highly dependent on local police La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #20

No one thinks that, but in many cases it is their only hope. Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #23

Excellent! 99Forever Dec 2014 #24

Because of the Civil War? bravenak Dec 2014 #26

I know we tried it twice and it failed both times. CK_John Dec 2014 #27

A new low on DU - TBF Dec 2014 #28

You are total wrong. CK_John Dec 2014 #29

One area that I have had personal experience in this is welfare. When I first had to get help for my jwirr Dec 2014 #32