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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
53. Sorry, no.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 07:04 AM
Dec 2014

His first few paragraphs weren't too bad, but then he fell into listening to the kind of stupidity Joe Scarborough was blathering.

Nobody was 'making a hero' out of Michael Brown, making him into 'Rosa Parks'. And, in fact, the fact that this author even used the 'Rosa Parks' line shows that he's simply parroting one of the lines used by RWers, after having just started his 'both sides do it' nonsense. It wasn't and still isn't happening - except in the minds of RWers who can't understand that not accepting Brown as a 'demon' (and, in fact, some even claim he was 'possessed by a homicidal demon' at the time) who 'charges' into a flurry of gunfire, doesn't mean that the other person suddenly thinks any black victim of police violence is suddenly 'Rosa Parks'.

"It’s impossible to imagine that both parties didn’t fear for their lives during that confrontation."

Maybe briefly for Wilson. He was armed, took no real damage at all during the entire episode. A slight reddening along one cheek that was barely visible. Do you 'fear for your life' every time you get in a fight? He possibly was in fear for his life when, after he (according to his own testimony) pulled out his weapon and threatened to shoot Brown if he didn't 'move back', Brown instead tried to prevent him from carrying through on his threat of excessive force. But he ended the part where he had to 'be in fear' when he shot Brown in the hand and Brown ran away from his vehicle. Then he got out and shot something like 9-10 more rounds at Brown, simply because he could. Because he knew that as a policeman, he can shoot a black man and likely never face trial, never be convicted. Hell, he had time to realize that it was better to 'pull a Zimmerman', and give his explanation of a corpse, rather than leave a living victim to tell his own side of the story that put Wilson in a far worse light.

Now you can say that I'm trying to 'read Wilson's mind', and that I can't possibly know 'why' Wilson got out and shot Brown over and over and over. Despite the fact that the vast majority of 'witnesses' relate something radically different than Wilson. But it's no more a show of psychic prowess than your 'copywriting compadre' puts on in 'knowing' how 'fearful' Wilson was.

Your buddy stumbles into a few ok ideas again later on, but then stumbles right on out again into a RW mindset.

Riots aren't 'shameful', unless you mean that we should feel shame that conditions are so bad that people are driven to riot. Riots are the simple manifestation of a release of incredibly strong emotion over a system that isn't a refutation of slavery, but a continuation of it by other means. Votes that don't matter, that don't change anything. Rather than count blacks as '3/5ths' of a human outright, the wealthy use corrupt politicians to gerrymander the districts in which they live to achieve the same ends, assuming they haven't already been disenfranchised in other ways - modern day poll taxes, 'faulty' machines, polling sites that can't handle the traffic, are hard to get to, are barely ever open.

Working conditions that are dangerous, and barely provide enough for families to survive. Sure, you can claim the workers are being paid, but even during outright slavery, they were (not all of them, but many) allowed to keep enough food to keep them alive, poor clothing, shelter, etc, simply to keep them 'alive and functional'. Dead slaves don't work, but dirt poor ones will is a lesson our modern oligarchs know all too well.

And if they 'step out of line', the enforcers are still around, to make sure that they either die to provide an example to the rest, or are thrown even deeper into bondage, to do dirty, dangerous jobs for the state while incarcerated and not able to provide for their families.

So no, it's not about 'retreating into corners'. It's about realizing the system is rotten to its core, and some people are willing to accept that and fight it, and others just want to 'return to normal' after each new murder.

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Is the author white? NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #1
What's the problem? Atman Dec 2014 #2
White or not? NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #3
Why does it matter? Atman Dec 2014 #4
If you'd read it, you would know writer is white. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #11
yep rbrnmw Dec 2014 #32
Apparently it's necessary. Igel Dec 2014 #20
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #9
welcome to DU Kali Dec 2014 #16
Thanks MIRT. uppityperson Dec 2014 #31
Sounds like a lot of white privilege bullshit to me NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #6
I totally accept those points. Atman Dec 2014 #7
I am angry at myself for giving this nonsensical white privilege bullshit 2 minutes of my life NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #8
seconded La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #13
Same here. Coincidentally, this was posted here... pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #18
. Iggo Dec 2014 #28
Well said. LeftOfWest Dec 2014 #36
Absofuckinglutely. These types of " both sides have a point" arguments are bullshit. Iris Dec 2014 #38
For instance if I hear one more time that both parties are at fault for a do nothing NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #61
I know, right? That's a PERFECT example of why eventually, there has to be a "right" side. Iris Dec 2014 #64
I'm white Caretha Dec 2014 #43
Yes it is stinky bullshit. The author is a privileged something or other LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #12
White woman here and I agree with you - this OP is bs. jwirr Dec 2014 #15
I'm a white man from the south. I say bs. mmonk Dec 2014 #10
Nobody ever claimed Michael Brown was a Rosa Parks gollygee Dec 2014 #14
Absolutely. jwirr Dec 2014 #17
I had a conversation last night with someone who brought up the "no angel" justiceischeap Dec 2014 #25
^^ THIS ^^ Iris Dec 2014 #40
Your buddy JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #19
oh what to do with this fresh steaming pile? 99Forever Dec 2014 #21
Unrec Totally Racist rbrnmw Dec 2014 #22
Sorry, but I do think Darren Wilson was an animal. logosoco Dec 2014 #23
Exactly. And a doing a dangerous job doesn't make them irreproachable. Iris Dec 2014 #41
The only people who got it wrong and are still getting it wrong... Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #24
Well said. n/t Iris Dec 2014 #42
something he/she missed KT2000 Dec 2014 #26
Steaming pile of shit HERVEPA Dec 2014 #27
There is some truth to the notion that many are getting caught up Maedhros Dec 2014 #29
Cops need to stop killing people. Period. bravenak Dec 2014 #30
The people are fed up with being fed up. mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2014 #33
+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2014 #52
My criticism would be that at this point in time, a high level analysis BootinUp Dec 2014 #34
I am willing to bet the author is BORRING . olddots Dec 2014 #35
Badge sniffing, racist, apologist nonsense all dressed up as "reasonable". FUCK THE POLICE! TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #37
+1 So true. nt Live and Learn Dec 2014 #48
I'm glad to have sparked a discussion. Atman Dec 2014 #39
When all you have is a spoon... Recursion Dec 2014 #44
I think the discussion validates many points from the article. Telling, that. n/t X_Digger Dec 2014 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #62
Whew. Now that we've read the article... Atman Dec 2014 #46
Do you have a link for that garbage or was it written exclusively for you? Live and Learn Dec 2014 #49
No sarcasm. Atman Dec 2014 #50
Okay, read it again and he does have a few valid points. Live and Learn Dec 2014 #51
I think 'fear' should be removed entirely as an excuse for killing people. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #55
Show him this vid azmom Dec 2014 #60
What friggen riots? Live and Learn Dec 2014 #47
Sorry, no. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #53
Excellent analysis. Atman Dec 2014 #57
How can you claim to be in fear for your life kdmorris Dec 2014 #54
Complete bullshit!!!!!! WestIndianArchie Dec 2014 #56
How is it "propaganda?" Atman Dec 2014 #58
This post is too long for my taste. nt ladjf Dec 2014 #59
Sorry, but I can't rec this. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #63
Joe, I really don't think you get racism above the individual level meaning you can't get a handle TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #65
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