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DireStrike

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75. I don't really understand why you're giving Obama credit for those things

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 09:52 AM

Dec 2014

The democratic party and its functionaries are, as usual, lagging behind the people on the ground who did the real work, but are happy to come along and lap up the credit because they said some nice words a few years ago. All politicians have always said some nice things a few years ago.

Wealth gap - credit goes to OWS and organizers who have been working tirelessly for years to raise the issue. I'd say George W and the banksters did more to bring this to light by crashing the economy in the first place.

LGBT issues - again, this is all due to the organizational efforts of many small groups.

Racism - I think society is backsliding on this issue. "We have a black president, racism is over now!" Millennials especially are bored of racism and pretend it has basically been solved, and are firmly against affirmative action due to this. The common answer to any sort of social outrage is "both parties are wrong, get over it and make peace so I can go back to my iphone apps". And I say this as a millennial.

Obamacare sucks but is a very, very small step in the right direction. It is like the first cut in a surgical procedure. If we stop there, it's basically just a stab wound.

Obama's major accomplishments include stabilizing the economy through fiscal conservatism, and projecting an image of having addressed problems which he has done nothing about. This is an important function in a president and Obama has done it very well.

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I think the Obama Presidency is going to turn out to be very [View all] malaise Dec 2014 OP

It had better hurry..... daleanime Dec 2014 #1

come on.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #3

for once, i agree with you noiretextatique Dec 2014 #5

Not Barack.... daleanime Dec 2014 #6

Yes....you will survive.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #8

Oh, my survival.... daleanime Dec 2014 #14

Your children will survive too.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #17

No worries about climate change, VanilaRhapsody has vouched for the safety of TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #54

Did I say that? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #62

Yes you did. You said WE will survive, you told the poster they will live, and added that their TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #72

President Obama yes... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #94

Its easier to fix this planet than to populate another. obxhead Dec 2014 #114

And maybe we will.. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #118

Has opened more offshore drilling licenses than Bush obxhead Dec 2014 #121

but see you are a one issue voter.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #130

Now that's laying it out malaise Dec 2014 #128

You also said President Obama was not a Republican no matter what A Simple Game Dec 2014 #87

He is not a republican.....did you listen in context or is that the ONLY word you heard him say? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #96

We have liberal Republicans in New York. A Simple Game Dec 2014 #112

as opposed to? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #119

I don't know what your "as opposed to?" is in reference to. A Simple Game Dec 2014 #122

In context what does it mean....when you listen to....the.....words....he ....wrappped....around.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #132

Surviving and living gyroscope Dec 2014 #19

Ay yi yi.....Yeah Obama is the Antichrist I know.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #20

"Shut up and just be glad you're alive" gyroscope Dec 2014 #23

You only think in terms of Black and White right? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #63

The bulk of our fellow voters can share the blame for the quality our leadership. lumpy Dec 2014 #52

a GOP congress may be a blessing in disguise vlyons Dec 2014 #61

One other thing Republicans are champion at....Overreach! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #64

As a Buddhist, I see their ignorance in a very ironic light vlyons Dec 2014 #111

I wish he would've campaigned on that, "I promise you will survive my presidency" raindaddy Dec 2014 #83

He IS a Populist Democrat! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #97

Yes, he is a populist democrat, Progressive dog Dec 2014 #100

Denial in the face of all the evidence....is willful ignorance.. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #102

There's not a progressive Democrat in the history of the party...... raindaddy Dec 2014 #113

You mean "not a Populist" like this: VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #120

Just as I thought! And thanks for reminding me. raindaddy Dec 2014 #123

Aaaaaand did they get them? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #131

There were rallies in support of low-wage workers in KC today! LongTomH Dec 2014 #2

Proud of you malaise Dec 2014 #4

Sweet! daleanime Dec 2014 #7

Thank you LongTomH for getting this thread back on track. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #104

At the time, they hated Truman because he... Cooley Hurd Dec 2014 #9

+1 Two terms of corporate rule by Democrats woo me with science Dec 2014 #10

Good post malaise Dec 2014 #26

Try this Jim23434 Dec 2014 #29

+1!!! What you said is aboslutely correct! Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #36

+1 a whole bunch. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #69

There's also: movetoamend.org appalachiablue Dec 2014 #37

Yes, MoveToAmend is working for what we need regarding corporate money... Maineman Dec 2014 #58

I have the Move to Amend dollar bill STAMP, also ones from stampstampede.org- Ben & Jerry's appalachiablue Dec 2014 #59

The Democrats, by tradition is more open to the needs of the masses. alfredo Dec 2014 #46

We have no chance of rolling back such influence Maedhros Dec 2014 #103

Saying we stand a better chance with the Dems, also means they more willing to be alfredo Dec 2014 #117

WooT! grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #65

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #66

+1 It is a tired, obvious script and I fear it will be lapped up once again. nt raouldukelives Dec 2014 #74

The ability just to air grievances is amazing underpants Dec 2014 #11

Remember the "Free Speech Zones?" maddiemom Dec 2014 #82

Oh yeah underpants Dec 2014 #90

Yes. There have been some crazy/sneaky attempts at free speech, but mostly voter suppression, maddiemom Dec 2014 #124

And, also: I credit Cheney with the evil stuff you dealt with. He has been the maddiemom Dec 2014 #125

I think the courts Ink Man Dec 2014 #12

True about marriage views "evolving", but Obama has still been strong on LGBT thesquanderer Dec 2014 #16

Hey! Welcome to DU, both of you - Ink Man and Jim23434! calimary Dec 2014 #49

But he didnt fix absolutely everything, loser... NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #13

As a matter of fact, fast tracking the TPP Phlem Dec 2014 #21

lol. nt BootinUp Dec 2014 #24

He fixed very little actually, in the area of inequality. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #33

and he didn't find the cure for the common cad! LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #47

It's painfully slow because of the right wing establishment and corporate greed. YOHABLO Dec 2014 #15

These last two years are going to be rather interesting Johonny Dec 2014 #18

Fingers crossed he keeps it up, for the rest of his term. MBS Dec 2014 #67

I disagree that Obama "changed everything for LGBT folks." Maedhros Dec 2014 #22

+10 nichomachus Dec 2014 #27

Yea, and McCain and Romney would have too! JoePhilly Dec 2014 #73

But the choices are not 'he did it all and handed it to those homosexuals' or 'vote for Romeny'. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #79

Who ended DADT? JoePhilly Dec 2014 #88

And there you are with that tired retort Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #84

Who ended DADT? JoePhilly Dec 2014 #89

Not Romney or McCain! Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #98

Bingo! vi5 Dec 2014 #78

and he's done it with opposition never seen before. spanone Dec 2014 #25

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Dec 2014 #40

ooops, my bad.!!! spanone Dec 2014 #41

From Day 1 underpants Dec 2014 #91

You failed to mention Obama's depressing worker wages and offshoring US jobs brentspeak Dec 2014 #28

There are lots of contradictions in this malaise Dec 2014 #31

+1. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2014 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #30

I think Occupy Wall Street and phone cameras and social media have played a big role, too. nt valerief Dec 2014 #34

Absolutely malaise Dec 2014 #42

That's right. He told us to "make him" do things, and he's right. nt valerief Dec 2014 #57

He's not perfect, but he is genuine and we are all fortunate to have him as President. Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #35

The middle class needs to be motivated to act. alfredo Dec 2014 #38

As reality sets in more and more middle class folks malaise Dec 2014 #43

Look at all of the peaceful revolutions in the past few decades, it was the middle class that alfredo Dec 2014 #44

I don't think he gets much credit for changing life for the LGBT folks. That movement rhett o rick Dec 2014 #39

Sometimes just getting out of the way is enough. alfredo Dec 2014 #45

Kind of funny way to put it. Maybe he "got out of the way" for same-sex marriage rhett o rick Dec 2014 #48

That's what I was referring to. I am not too disappointed that he has acted poorly alfredo Dec 2014 #51

The average educational level of those in poverty has increased in these 6 years. Significant! n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #50

Very significant! lonestarnot Dec 2014 #129

Yup. Over 10 million people have dropped into poverty in this administration. Many jtuck004 Dec 2014 #133

Only after they have something to compare it to... kentuck Dec 2014 #53

I think it will be looked back on as a realigning election, like Reagan's in 1980 Recursion Dec 2014 #55

Her did very little for lgbt rights. Fearless Dec 2014 #56

first thing he did in office was remove the Global Gag Rule BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #60

Amen!! mfcorey1 Dec 2014 #68

I agree loyalsister Dec 2014 #70

Once again, he is the "apocalyptic" President. The President who "unveils what is hidden." nt kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #71

I don't really understand why you're giving Obama credit for those things DireStrike Dec 2014 #75

I see it differently. 99Forever Dec 2014 #76

I keep imagining the post-2016 Obama. tridim Dec 2014 #77

It's going to infuriate DU Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #85

Which fight would that be? zipplewrath Dec 2014 #92

Maybe you'll get it someday. tridim Dec 2014 #93

And maybe you will too zipplewrath Dec 2014 #95

He didn't change everything with respect to LGBT. In fact, he was late to the table NorthCarolina Dec 2014 #80

He won't get any credit, and in fact, he will continue to be blamed in some corners.... MADem Dec 2014 #81

I read a piece by Robert Reich (I believe) ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #105

Significant in that it's the first time pocoloco Dec 2014 #86

I agree MaggieD Dec 2014 #99

It's like removing the scab from an infected wound demwing Dec 2014 #101

Yes ... and with both meanings of the word "Patient." n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #106

I hope SCOTUS does not gut Obamacare Demsrule86 Dec 2014 #107

Obama will end up in the middle of the top half of past Presidents. Albertoo Dec 2014 #108

Also, Obama will be impeached Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #109

Ok But because President Obama is the first African American INdemo Dec 2014 #110

I think the moment before he ran for his second term... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2014 #115

Waiting Miigwech Dec 2014 #116

I agree. mia Dec 2014 #126

K Cha Dec 2014 #127

I just wish he was in there fighting for the working class instead of promising liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #134

big kick and rec! nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #135