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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
32. there is something
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:08 PM
Dec 2014

I don't trust in this interview about the 'panic' and 'fear' of white cops for "hulking" black males. Could those hulks be like maybe Eric Garner or Michael Brown?. Is another word for that hulk, "demon"?. Whether civil rights attorney or not, the slant of ms. Rice seems to miss the hate and the racism already present in that white cop that is agitated by racist media, both radio and television, that these cops watch and listen to consistently. I am sure that she is being truthful about some white cops "not having a racist bone in their body", "adopting black children" and "going to black churches". "They really weren't overtly racist". "They weren't consciously racist". Okay maybe true again and again, nationwide. But I ask, in a town like ferguson, how many white cops did what ms. Rice used as positive examples of "nonracist white cops"? I found no examples like that mentioned anywhere in the last 4+months concerning the multitude of shooting/executions and murders of UNARMED black males and females? Could any of those cops in NYC that surrounded Eric Garner be an example of what ms. Rice said? Was that cop that shot 12 year old Tamir Rice an example of what ms. Rice used as a "fearful" cop? Definitely yes given that he was fired from another police department as "unfit for a police officer". In the former example given stated by ms. Rice, I truly doubt it given the the circumstances of those two black men and their death. Racism IS part of the mindset of MANY white cops, period. No amount of soft peddling their state of mind is ever going to change that fact.

Black men fear white cops and white cops fear black men according to ms. Rice and her analysis because of mistrust by one, with good reason, and by the other because they know, even if they are not racist, another cop that is consciously racist and acts on that racism with the black man this "non racist" white cop is facing. If that creates the fear to shoot first, then ask questions later while spinning the truth in the non racist white cop, then the training and psychological screening that the racist cop somehow got through is the problem. How do you screen an individual that when asked by a trainer, "what do you think of black people? And that individual, while having the nword screaming in their mind answers, "oh I have no problem with black people, I even have some as friends". How do we stop a justice system that racist. How do we rectify a police institution that is racist? By sending all racist police officers to a black housing project? I don't think so. Ms. Rice seems to be ignoring a lot of the reality of american culture and society or just outright discounting and dismissing that reality. Better training and realistic psychological screening is the only answer.

To panic and fear black men in situations where the police person is facing a hostile and/or peaceful black person seems to show me that first:the wrong type of person is doing policing. second: the training of these police persons is inadequate.

I just have a problem here with ms. Rice soft peddling racism as fear and panic. It is obvious and transparently true, racist hate causes a lot of brutality and summary execution(s) faced by unarmed black men, women and children from white cops.

Ms. Rice says in her soft peddling of the summary executions and outright murders that "the black community experiences it (the executions) as racism". No doubt about it when that is the motivation most obvious for the killing an unarmed black person by the white cop(s).

Don't misunderstand me. I hope ms. Rices 'model can be adopted as a nationwide training tool, yet I know that for some white cops facing unarmed black males, women and children, "fear and panic" is NOT why they kill. I hope her training in community relations, Public Trust Policing, results in less murders and executions of young and old black males, females and children in her immediate AO and if it results in less racist attitudes by the white cop(s), better screening and training, then it's all to the good. I'm not going to hold my breath for more ACCOUNTABILITY being accepted by police departments, for the suspicious and/or controversial shootings of unarmed people, or the DA's and GJ..




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Don't tell me NPR is doing their job randr Dec 2014 #1
well, some are so far left everything is a right wing tool. kwassa Dec 2014 #2
That's my favorite tool...slip joint pliers. zeemike Dec 2014 #12
Have always called them channel lock pliers. joshdawg Dec 2014 #20
The Aggie knurling tool. cloudbase Dec 2014 #24
+1. bemildred Dec 2014 #28
It does it now and then. Xyzse Dec 2014 #5
If they are afraid... sendero Dec 2014 #3
That's not very empathetic ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #33
In no job that I know of.. sendero Dec 2014 #37
Don't get me wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #40
I can't wait for NPR to reveal all the dirt on the Koch roaches. L0oniX Dec 2014 #4
The Koch roaches own NPR and PBS?? randr Dec 2014 #7
5 seconds of Google.... L0oniX Dec 2014 #9
I will not argue whether the Koch's have weaseled their way into every corner of our world or not randr Dec 2014 #11
I can't deal with their slant and their "experts" Tsiyu Dec 2014 #8
That interview was an excellent exposure of Right wing lunacy randr Dec 2014 #10
Wasn't it? Tsiyu Dec 2014 #23
That's really not a problem... sendero Dec 2014 #39
Ironically corporate political campaign contributions are also not a problem... L0oniX Dec 2014 #47
The rightwing 24/7 hate machine marions ghost Dec 2014 #6
I'm not buying the sulphurdunn Dec 2014 #13
I completely believe it ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #34
Historically, that is why LAPD became a militaristic police force .... kwassa Dec 2014 #35
Maybe, I romanticize; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #38
my teen years were way out in the country ... kwassa Dec 2014 #41
You, too? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #42
National propaganda radio at it again. blackspade Dec 2014 #14
And I think it's the emphasis on policing has changed since the Bush mis-administration... joeybee12 Dec 2014 #15
They are afraid of black men...wonder why? Couldn't be that parents, teachers, and media teach them kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #16
Disarm America. Disarm the citizens and the police of unneeded weaponry. A gun should be feared, all Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #17
I agree LeftInTX Dec 2014 #43
Is this a Koch joke? Oilwellian Dec 2014 #18
It would be stupidity for a cop to not be afraid demwing Dec 2014 #19
People tend to not make good decisions when they are afraid. logosoco Dec 2014 #21
logosoco, people with guns in their hand in general make some really bad decisions cstanleytech Dec 2014 #25
Yes, and I would imagine someone commiting a crime is experiencing fear logosoco Dec 2014 #27
This is what happens when you have politicians weissmam Dec 2014 #22
I like NPR interviews, they have good interviews all the time. Sunlei Dec 2014 #26
Ms Rice is well known in LA and always worth listening to. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #29
Yes, I remember her from many years ago ... kwassa Dec 2014 #36
Lots of cops are afraid but they could never admit this publicly tularetom Dec 2014 #30
Community Policing works, sure did in our town . . FairWinds Dec 2014 #31
there is something heaven05 Dec 2014 #32
This is fascinating and very believable Doctor_J Dec 2014 #44
Those scared cops are the reason that they need psychiatric examinations a couple time a year and jwirr Dec 2014 #45
Blue Wash.... typical of NPR. bvar22 Dec 2014 #46
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