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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
39. Have I ever given President Obama credit?
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:11 AM
Dec 2014

Holy Crap. How come I have to have this discussion whenever I tell the truth about anything?

Fine, here we go again. Why must I go through this all the time? Here's one, and just one of the posts I've made in support of the President. http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/10025388493 By the way, that one is in my journal.

Now, that we've paid token attention to my bonafides. Let's talk economy. Since it is consistently the number one issue that voters are concerned about. How do we show we care, and are aware of the situation that many if not most people find themselves in?

I only mention that because, as I said above, it's hard to get elected when all you throw people is propaganda about how awesome things are. Ask Harry Reid if you doubt me, because next month he's moving to the Minority Leader instead of Majority. I'm sure Turtle will be awesome for our side. Should I put the Sarcasm tag on for that one or are you willing to accept that I really didn't want him to be the leader since I spent most of the last year warning about the danger of losing the senate while people just like you claimed I was spreading Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt because I wanted the Democratic Party to read the fucking polls and see how much trouble they were in. I had this crazy idea that if we represented the people, and took on some populist issues like reigning in the NSA we would get more support than if we ran a campaign which centered on the idea that the Republicans would lose the election for us with something like a Real Rape quote.

Now, I want the Democratic Party to notice the economy, and start a two pronged attack on it. A) Tell the truth about the economic conditions. B) Propose plans to improve the economy. I don't care if we can get it through the Republican Congress. We have to be talking about it before the voters will think we care about it. Then we can get elected to fix the things that they all see as screwed up. http://www.gallup.com/poll/110824/gallup-daily-us-economic-outlook.aspx

Allow me to quote a post I made some time ago and was thinking about a week or so back.

What can I do? I can keep pushing my country to be better. I can keep striving to make my nation live up to the promise, the principles I hold dear in my heart. It is not because I hate my country, or President Obama. It is because I love it, and the President, that I demand we be better than we are.

I want to see the day when a child can achieve to the limits of their ability in well funded schools. I want to see the day when we respect one another with all our differences and live in peace together. I dream of the day when police serve the community and don't abuse those who have entrusted the power with them. I fantasize about the day when we are all truly equal and are all assured of our individual rights.

I dream of the day when the NSA, CIA, FBI, and DHS are reigned in and put on the shortest leashes possible. I ache for the day when the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments are enforced by the courts with no exceptions.


If you want it or not, I'm going to tell you the truth about Politics. You have to wake every morning and ask yourself how can I help the people today. You can never forget you represent the people, and you can never forget that they will vote you out of office, fire you, if you ever appear tone deaf or unconcerned about them. I've marched in protests. I marched back in the 1980's. I marched before it was AIDS or HIV. I marched when it was called The Grip. I've stood shoulder to shoulder to protest the deaths. I protested Gulf War One, Two, and will probably protest Gulf war Three.

So keep pushing the propaganda, and keep ignoring the truth. Because as long as the Democratic Supporters continue this, we will continue to lose elections. I've told you the truth, and you don't want to hear it. Fine with me, but don't pretend it's the fault of Citizens United, or Money in Politics when we lose in 2016. Because the reason will be we're more interested in form over function, and the people desperately want us working on the function.

While you are busy running around demanding proof that the posters are truly Democratic, I've been spending my time trying to help the Democratic Party win elections. You let me know how the witch hunt goes, I'm not enjoying much success, our party seems determined to lose through obstinate stupidity. But at least we have a good loyalty test and quick punishment for those who don't measure up to today's constantly changing loyalty standard.

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He's supposed to be MAGIC!!! bravenak Dec 2014 #1
Well, in a way, he is. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #61
Hell yeah!! bravenak Dec 2014 #66
His legacy will go down as one of the best in history. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #2
In neighborhoods, the reality is crushing. Savannahmann Dec 2014 #8
Technology, automation, and China. What now? apples and oranges Dec 2014 #14
President Obama will tell you the solution is the TPP or SHAFTA Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #31
"SHAFTA" Brilliant! Odin2005 Dec 2014 #57
I can't remember where I heard that - some MSNBC show Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #91
Well I suppose we can dismiss this reply eh? Savannahmann Dec 2014 #33
The labor participation rate isn't really a statistic to gripe about bhikkhu Dec 2014 #18
You do know that was one of the numbers right? Savannahmann Dec 2014 #34
62.8% currently bhikkhu Dec 2014 #40
An utterly false chart. former9thward Dec 2014 #46
The increase in the labor participation rate is largely due to women entering the workforce bhikkhu Dec 2014 #48
The drop in the labor participation rate is not voluntary. former9thward Dec 2014 #73
Same old BS Andy823 Dec 2014 #23
+100 nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #26
Have I ever given President Obama credit? Savannahmann Dec 2014 #39
I will give you credit for that one Andy823 Dec 2014 #79
What is the popularity of the party in polling? Savannahmann Dec 2014 #90
Yeah, Good News and the ODS Crowd busts out the Cha Dec 2014 #103
Agree with you on the fact that it's not so rosy for many GitRDun Dec 2014 #41
On Guantanamo btw . . . brush Dec 2014 #42
I am aware of Congress role. GitRDun Dec 2014 #43
Oh HELL YES ^^^THIS^^^ 99Forever Dec 2014 #71
Human beings don't live on paper. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #56
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #62
Keep laughing, bro. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #63
I will, if you keep posting insane shit like that!! Hahahaha!!!! Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #64
You must be one of the senators one of FDR's cabinet members was talking to when... Odin2005 Dec 2014 #65
Really, eh?... SidDithers Dec 2014 #87
Legacies do though. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #68
But we have to govern by abstractions. Alittleliberal Dec 2014 #74
You must be smoking some gooood stuff. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #95
Thanks. elleng Dec 2014 #3
Most people are complaining about the number of part-time jobs and the lower wages. All recoveries okaawhatever Dec 2014 #4
You say F$%k the naysayers. I take that to mean you say F$%k to those making up rhett o rick Dec 2014 #96
Hyperbole much? My F$%k the naysayers comment was directed only at those who are okaawhatever Dec 2014 #97
Go ahead and celebrate your statistics. I'll celebrate when people I know personally rhett o rick Dec 2014 #105
I would say the workers who got their jobs back in the auto industry are not complaining Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #5
I don't believe that the economy has been "saved", yet. razorman Dec 2014 #6
Very interesting. OilemFirchen Dec 2014 #10
Exactly - nothing has really been passed for years. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2014 #13
What the fed is doing, cheap cash in unlimited quantities, is huge. Low interest rates for years and Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #22
Well the question was what had the president done, not the fed. TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2014 #72
I remember the situation when Obama took over, some choose not to. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #75
And this has what to do with anything? TampaAnimusVortex Dec 2014 #83
Aside from the fact that I am not convinced that it is really growing(at least not much), razorman Dec 2014 #20
You also talked about credit or blame, and its indisputable that the Pukes Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #35
If you don't toot your own horn the band will play their theme. nt CK_John Dec 2014 #7
Amen! Time for this admin to toot their own horn! nt babylonsister Dec 2014 #16
This. riqster Dec 2014 #104
His instincts on the state of the US economy was right, Old and In the Way Dec 2014 #9
Depends on if you're one of the people he helped save the economy for unrepentant progress Dec 2014 #11
"Most aren't" = BS. apples and oranges Dec 2014 #15
How soon some forget 2009... n/t Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #37
"Recovery bypassed 90% of American families-who have gained 0 in terms of wealth/income" progressoid Dec 2014 #50
Now the goal post has moved. I know people driving luxury cars who have no savings apples and oranges Dec 2014 #53
Nope. progressoid Dec 2014 #59
Excellent posts in this subthread. Thank you for all the links woo me with science Dec 2014 #100
A depression averted: are you kidding? Did you know a babylonsister Dec 2014 #17
You got it right. Obama gets credit for nothing, only blame. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #12
Two possibilities: Vattel Dec 2014 #19
You may have noticed that it was easier to fake support for the first-time black President, kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #21
Exactly Andy823 Dec 2014 #27
Now that you mention it, that describes the last 6 years of dems in congress well bhikkhu Dec 2014 #49
It's not better for VFX workers in Los Angeles abelenkpe Dec 2014 #24
Yes you have it right Andy823 Dec 2014 #25
Not all are right wingers. There is a pretty large Socialist contingent here. Not European Socialist okaawhatever Dec 2014 #29
Marxist here. U MAD BRO? U MAD??? Odin2005 Dec 2014 #58
There is a large Kermitt Gribble Dec 2014 #70
The reason he doesn't get credit is because minimum wage has been stagnant. People are working jillan Dec 2014 #28
Love your post, too true flamingdem Dec 2014 #30
There will always be people unemployed or sruggling financially, except not so many. Only demosincebirth Dec 2014 #32
Classic example of a bullshit argument MFrohike Dec 2014 #36
^^^^Good post.^^^^ This administration *covers up* Wall Street criminality woo me with science Dec 2014 #98
Here ya go..... DeSwiss Dec 2014 #38
Well I for one am willing to give him complete credit for the high profits of his Wall Street rhett o rick Dec 2014 #44
Why don't you ask those going out on strike for a decent wage if they think Obama rhett o rick Dec 2014 #45
So tell me one thing Andy823 Dec 2014 #80
Some here want it both ways. They want to give Pres Obama credit for the "recovery" and yet rhett o rick Dec 2014 #84
Many middle class families are depending on that stock market for their retirement apples and oranges Dec 2014 #54
I would love to see the numbers as to how many middle class families are getting retirements. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #77
If by 'many' you mean 'few'. progressoid Dec 2014 #78
Good for you, apples and oranges sticking up for what is evident.. Cha Dec 2014 #47
+10000000 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #51
Rachel Maddow pointed out it's the best since 1999, with charts, naming names.... Hekate Dec 2014 #52
Problem is you can't have it both ways. Not holding the President accountable for the state of the rhett o rick Dec 2014 #89
Where do you live? Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #93
Washington the State rhett o rick Dec 2014 #94
Nobody saved the US economy. The Banksters got saved, the rest of us were told to fuck off. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #55
Ya, right after Obama slashed Social Security and cut food stamps, he doesn't get credit for it. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #60
No kidding! It is ridiculous how dems and repubs alike refuse to.... bobGandolf Dec 2014 #67
Yes, I do think you have it "right." Righties in their uncomfortable tighties want that to be the lonestarnot Dec 2014 #69
If John McCain would have won in 2008 INdemo Dec 2014 #76
Obama saved a shitty system rusty fender Dec 2014 #81
k&r.... spanone Dec 2014 #82
DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2014 #85
"More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones."-St. Teresa Of Avila DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #86
He should get credit for this diseased debt bubble of an economy LittleBlue Dec 2014 #88
President Obama has consistently lowered the deficits every single year he has been in office. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #92
Obama stemmed the panic, but it's hard to say he 'saved' the economy Albertoo Dec 2014 #101
how can someone get credit for something that hasn't happened? Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #102
Without Congressional help what specifically did the President to rhett o rick Dec 2014 #106
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