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heaven05

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50. By RW american racists

Sat Dec 6, 2014, 05:58 PM

Dec 2014

it IS used that way. Yes, any person can be described as a thug with no racist overtones. White racist who use it, usually RW but not always, cannot be trusted to have 'good' intentions when referring to black americans as thugs. Period. The history and usage of RW racist dog whistle language IS understood for what it means TODAY.....

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"Thug" has become the accepted way of calling someone the N-word... [View all] Playinghardball Dec 2014 OP

Yep Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #1

Yob? leftymon Dec 2014 #3

Britishism Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #6

OH...I thought it meant "young oppressed black" leftymon Dec 2014 #26

You know, "yob" is boy spelled backwards. VScott Dec 2014 #5

Yes, that was Disraeli's point Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #7

That was my point VScott Dec 2014 #8

Interesting... The Great Escape Dec 2014 #15

The term is/was used heaven05 Dec 2014 #22

My dad grew up in the slums of London. cwydro Dec 2014 #67

I agree that it has etherealtruth Dec 2014 #2

Twenty or thirty years now, that one's been a go to for shy racists and other axe-grinders. bemildred Dec 2014 #4

+1 xchrom Dec 2014 #14

The imperative to denigrate black people is quite telling. MrScorpio Dec 2014 #9

True that! BillZBubb Dec 2014 #11

well said. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #21

I find it interesting that the term thug exboyfil Dec 2014 #10

Someone needs to inform John Kerry and others who use the word to describe people such as Assad. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #12

not relevant to point heaven05 Dec 2014 #18

it's more about Context, similar to referring to an adult black male as a Boy JI7 Dec 2014 #78

It's been white code for years. ancianita Dec 2014 #13

Is "brush country thug posse" an acceptable use of the word? Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #32

I hear ya. That strictly white context called for it being used against those guys. My claim here is ancianita Dec 2014 #42

It's a perfect application. Glad you decided to share it. I missed it the first time. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #61

absolutely right. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #16

true heaven05 Dec 2014 #17

No, history of the word is entirely different... JCMach1 Dec 2014 #19

well in this country, at this time in history heaven05 Dec 2014 #37

Blah, blah, blah derby378 Dec 2014 #39

"blah", "blah", "blah" heaven05 Dec 2014 #41

Blah blah blah? gollygee Dec 2014 #43

While I appreciate your more even-handed approach to discussing the word... derby378 Dec 2014 #48

I said nationwide and you've found mainly British links gollygee Dec 2014 #53

Actually, it IS used in sports media. Here its used to describe 50 white guys: 7962 Dec 2014 #71

It is used in a non-racist way in hockey gollygee Dec 2014 #73

same here helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #62

Ummmm 2PAC JCMach1 Dec 2014 #79

Yes, but it is heaven05 Dec 2014 #84

Can racists appropriate a word? of course they can... the difference is JCMach1 Dec 2014 #94

your point is well understood heaven05 Dec 2014 #96

I'm not sure much response beyond "you're wrong" is possible. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #87

fine heaven05 Dec 2014 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #89

Sad but true. Atman Dec 2014 #20

I use thug christx30 Dec 2014 #23

nope heaven05 Dec 2014 #38

That's what I use it for too arikara Dec 2014 #44

It's about context by which you use a word Burf-_- Dec 2014 #24

It could be gollygee Dec 2014 #45

Bernie Kerik referred to Ferguson protesters as savages, animals and goblins pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #25

He did. Igel Dec 2014 #31

I've seen goblin used in our own gungeon. Yeah, I know, surprise. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #70

Well, it must be ok, cause he DIDN'T say "thug". 7962 Dec 2014 #75

Yes La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #27

Yep. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #28

Oh, horseshit. I've been calling bad cops "thugs" for years. 7962 Dec 2014 #29

And don't forget those NHL goons. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #34

Wow, you're right! I completely forgot about hockey!! nt 7962 Dec 2014 #68

This may cause a problem for some on DU. sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #30

Can we still call Putin a thug? Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #33

I'll use it if it fits. Here's the definition of word: 7962 Dec 2014 #74

The word CAN be used that way. It's not the only way it's used. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #35

By RW american racists heaven05 Dec 2014 #50

That's why it's described as code loyalsister Dec 2014 #85

Exactly true when used by right wingers to refer to Blacks. Might be something different when Hoyt Dec 2014 #36

Sounds like a case of offensensitivity derby378 Dec 2014 #40

So if someone says it, it must be so? bemildred Dec 2014 #47

That reaches me as the gist of the OP derby378 Dec 2014 #51

So you are both full of it then? bemildred Dec 2014 #55

And ironically, that's what the thread is based on Bonx Dec 2014 #52

Please see post #55, it applies to you too. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #58

I never thought about that really helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #46

Please post #55. bemildred Dec 2014 #57

My posts apply to you helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #65

No they don't, I don't use the word "thug" all the time. bemildred Dec 2014 #66

Suppose I want to call rock Dec 2014 #49

I use the word thug all the time helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #60

I thought I had led a sheltered life rock Dec 2014 #63

Me either helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #64

You use the term "Guidos" JTFrog Dec 2014 #86

Yup , the jersey shore type thugs helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #93

You are defending using insensitive and bigoted statements JTFrog Dec 2014 #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #54

I don't take cues from Richard Sherman mythology Dec 2014 #56

That's why I call them ReTHUGlicans Dirty Socialist Dec 2014 #59

Yes, "Those People" was getting Turbineguy Dec 2014 #69

Are whites ChazII Dec 2014 #72

This kind of code language is called using "dog whistles" gollygee Dec 2014 #76

Thank you, gollygee ChazII Dec 2014 #77

Except that "thug" isn't a code word, it's an openly derogatory word. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #91

It's common as dirt. bemildred Dec 2014 #80

So are whites the only ChazII Dec 2014 #81

No. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #82

ty. nt ChazII Dec 2014 #83

While this is obviously not true per se, it does seem to be often used in similar circumstances. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #90

So. maced666 Dec 2014 #92

Sorry, you're just wrong. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #97