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sabrina 1

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6. After Dems won everything in 2008 people were hopeful for real change. But then people were told
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:49 AM
Dec 2014

that 'we can't pass Progressive Legislation EVEN THOUGH WE WON, because of the BLUE DOGS. Or DLC/Third Way Dems. We had a majority in both houses and the WH but then the excuse became 'The Blue Dogs'. Before that it was THE REPUBLICANS. People worked hard to get that majority, people spent money they didn't have. We were ELATED in Nov 2008! What a victory!! But then, 'sorry, we need more than a majority. We can't do what you want us to do!

So the voters responded, they kicked them out in 2010.

The Party Leadership who were responsible for literally TELLING voters who was responsible, responded by BLAMING THE VOTERS.

Remember, Progressive Dems HELD THEIR SEATS in 2010 except for one that I recall. It was the Blue Dogs who lost.

Again in 2014, after hearing over and over again that even when we WIN we DON'T win, because of the 'conservative dems'. So once again, the voters responded.

And once again the Party Leadership turns a deaf ear and BLAMES THE VOTERS.

I don't believe that we cannot get a Progressive Dem elected in Southern States. I think we've been sold a lie. It is ludicrous to believe that people will vote against their own interests when they have a choice not to do so.

I think it suits Corporate Interests to place DlC/Third Way candidates in the Dem Party so they have one party totally on their side, and HALF the other party.

It is insulting to those states to simply say 'we can't get a good Democrat elected there so we have to 'settle'. Nonsense. I don't believe it.

But watch them once again 'BLAME THE VOTERS' who are only reacting to THEIR excuses for failing to use the power of WINNING.

So I don't expect them to learn anything from this, it isn't in their interests to do so.

But we will see OPs and comments here once again BLAMING THE VOTERS and I for one, will totally reject that. People are figuring it all out and that is why these Corporate Dems are losing while Progressive Dems are holding their seats for the most part.

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No matter the region, skin color, religion, politics people can feel what happens liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #1
Excellent post! This notion that good Dems 'can't win' in certain states is nonsense. Dems sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #19
I would caution against drawing broad conclusions from this. CBHagman Dec 2014 #2
Resume Howard Dean's 50 state strategy, elleng Dec 2014 #3
Just because something works well, it doesn't mean it shouldn't MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #4
'Better things' don't lead to failure. elleng Dec 2014 #5
I think the 50-State strategy was a good thing... truebluegreen Dec 2014 #30
After Dems won everything in 2008 people were hopeful for real change. But then people were told sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #6
so why did Andrew Cuomo get re-elected in New York ? JI7 Dec 2014 #7
Same reason Landrieu won before Dem voters had had enough. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #9
there are a lot more democrats in ny , if dems don't support how could he not only win the election JI7 Dec 2014 #10
Upstate NY is not Democratic, neither is Nassau Co. The perception that NY is liberal is sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #11
but governors are elected by the entire state, and the other guy got like 80 percent of republican JI7 Dec 2014 #12
Excuse me, I think I already said that Republicans support him. Are you saying that we Dems sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #13
no, i said the Republican got 80 percent of Republican support, so you are wrong in claiming JI7 Dec 2014 #14
Cuomo won because the other guy was so bad the people were left with no choice. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #23
if democrats didn't want cuomo JI7 Dec 2014 #24
Do you like to see Dems losing, both Congress and now the Senate? sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #25
cuomo wasn't running for congress JI7 Dec 2014 #26
We lost due to Third Way policies, period. Now it's time to return to the Party's sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #27
cuomo did not lose the elEction JI7 Dec 2014 #29
Cuomo played dirty. He wouldn't debate Teachout. He said it wavesofeuphoria Dec 2014 #31
he still got most democratic support JI7 Dec 2014 #32
if their interest is hating black people they are voting their interest by electing teabaggers JI7 Dec 2014 #8
I love your post sabrina. I think you are spot on. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #16
Another excellent post from one of DU's finest members. Thanks sabrina 1. Scuba Dec 2014 #21
No Dems at all left in the South moderate or otherwise Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #15
well, there is still hfojvt Dec 2014 #17
Well there's still Tester Recursion Dec 2014 #18
Do you ever feel that you are throwing meringues into a black hole? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #20
Where is your list of progressive candidates for those states? JoePhilly Dec 2014 #22
Where is the party's list of progressives ANYWHERE? Do they have one? How about NJ? sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #28
Of course they should not 'give up' on states. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #33
I'm not 100 percent sure madokie Dec 2014 #34
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