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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
17. well, there is still
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 04:26 AM
Dec 2014

DiFI, Bill Nelson, John Tester, Clair McCaskill, Cory Booker, Heidi Heitkamp, Tim Kaine, Joe Manchin

All of those are probably considered DLC of varying shades.

I have this thing about the political process. I kind of think that CANDIDATES should decide to run. When you say "should Democrats run something totally different" you make the whole candidate selection process into something very undemocratic.

Which, of course, it very often is. A group of party elites and people with deep pockets find somebody, usually with deep pockets of their own - to run for the office.

I will say it again. If we want a candidate more liberal than Landrieu, then let that candidate run in the primary and beat Landrieu. If they cannot do that, then what chance do they have to win the general election? For myself, yes, I would rather win with a Landrieu than to lose with a Kucinich. I'd rather have 60 Democrats in the Senate, even if 10 of them are DINOs than to replace those DINOs with a bunch of conservative Republicans. And realisitically, sometimes you can elect a George McGovern in a place like South Dakota, but more often you will get a Tim Johnson, Tom Daschle or Stephanie Herseth.

But I'd love to have Johnson, Daschle and Herseth rather than Rounds, Thune and Noem.

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No matter the region, skin color, religion, politics people can feel what happens liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #1
Excellent post! This notion that good Dems 'can't win' in certain states is nonsense. Dems sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #19
I would caution against drawing broad conclusions from this. CBHagman Dec 2014 #2
Resume Howard Dean's 50 state strategy, elleng Dec 2014 #3
Just because something works well, it doesn't mean it shouldn't MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #4
'Better things' don't lead to failure. elleng Dec 2014 #5
I think the 50-State strategy was a good thing... truebluegreen Dec 2014 #30
After Dems won everything in 2008 people were hopeful for real change. But then people were told sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #6
so why did Andrew Cuomo get re-elected in New York ? JI7 Dec 2014 #7
Same reason Landrieu won before Dem voters had had enough. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #9
there are a lot more democrats in ny , if dems don't support how could he not only win the election JI7 Dec 2014 #10
Upstate NY is not Democratic, neither is Nassau Co. The perception that NY is liberal is sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #11
but governors are elected by the entire state, and the other guy got like 80 percent of republican JI7 Dec 2014 #12
Excuse me, I think I already said that Republicans support him. Are you saying that we Dems sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #13
no, i said the Republican got 80 percent of Republican support, so you are wrong in claiming JI7 Dec 2014 #14
Cuomo won because the other guy was so bad the people were left with no choice. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #23
if democrats didn't want cuomo JI7 Dec 2014 #24
Do you like to see Dems losing, both Congress and now the Senate? sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #25
cuomo wasn't running for congress JI7 Dec 2014 #26
We lost due to Third Way policies, period. Now it's time to return to the Party's sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #27
cuomo did not lose the elEction JI7 Dec 2014 #29
Cuomo played dirty. He wouldn't debate Teachout. He said it wavesofeuphoria Dec 2014 #31
he still got most democratic support JI7 Dec 2014 #32
if their interest is hating black people they are voting their interest by electing teabaggers JI7 Dec 2014 #8
I love your post sabrina. I think you are spot on. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #16
Another excellent post from one of DU's finest members. Thanks sabrina 1. Scuba Dec 2014 #21
No Dems at all left in the South moderate or otherwise Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #15
well, there is still hfojvt Dec 2014 #17
Well there's still Tester Recursion Dec 2014 #18
Do you ever feel that you are throwing meringues into a black hole? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #20
Where is your list of progressive candidates for those states? JoePhilly Dec 2014 #22
Where is the party's list of progressives ANYWHERE? Do they have one? How about NJ? sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #28
Of course they should not 'give up' on states. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #33
I'm not 100 percent sure madokie Dec 2014 #34
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